*please break this up
the thread is about OAP, not Lonely Mothers Pension*

Divorce Doctor, my figures come from last Wednesday's
Australian Financial Review.

They are totals, not details about which pensioners
received how much in detail.

Fact is, we know that if you can convince your doctor
that you have a crook back, you might just be able to
obtain an invalid pension.

So my point is this: 111$ billion is a huge chunk of
the federal budget. If you think that you can convince
society that unmarried mothers, widows, invalids, carers
etc, should have their pensions cut or wiped out, to
pay more to old aged pensioners, well go for it.

The real problem here is not the fault of the babyboomers of the next 10years or so which Rudds government understood by doing it's sums, They have an adequate tax payer base under them. In other words they had more children than the one's Rudd has put the pension age up for and they had them earlier. The generations under them especially in the last 30years, what is it I read in an article recently? 29% or something of those in their late 20's and 30's are still living at home with mum and dad. Baby Boomers in their 50's and 60's today had in the main left home got married and had 2 or 3 or in some cases 3 or 4 children by their early to mid thirties.

Many career people today have chosen not to have children at all or have just started to have 1child in their late thirties. I understand their decision but it does have consequences. Because there is an inadequate amount of young people ready to step into the work force under them and provide the tax base they need.

Superannuation may solve this problem but if that's the case, why is the government raising the retirement age? It doesn't make sense when you have all these young couples especially government workers on 12%super. They should, you think be able if not to fund their retirement at least fund a large proportion of it.

Yabby, Be careful you don’t shoot yourself in the foot. There but for the grace of God go you. How old are you? You are very sure of your health and immortality.
You or one of those close to you could become a carer tomorrow as a result of a car accident Sorry, no carer’s pension for you, your injured child or husband will have to go into an institution.

You are totally sure that you will arrive at sixty-seven in extremely good health. Well, look in the funeral notices in your local newspaper everyday , one day there are people who make it to their 80’s, or less often 90years, the next day there are half a dozen who died in their 50’s, 60’s and early 70’s. A lot of these people have debilitating illnesses, months or maybe even years before they die. And don’t think exercise and diet makes you bullet proof either. The human body has millions of complex parts that can go wrong at any moment.

Don’t think it’s is easy to get a disability pension off centrelink. My brother-in-law who was a carpenter all his life got asbestos in one of his lungs, he had it removed and had chemotherapy but the doctors couldn’t know if it would spread or not. He was 64years old. The hardhearted fellow at centrelink, said but we can’t put you on a disability pension because it’s not terminal is it? Six months later he was dead. He had never stopped working all his life surely he was intitled to a little compassion.

Bad backs are very real. My mother was a real trouper of a pioneer woman and she never told you her troubles, but some times when I would go to visit her, I could see the pain straight away in her face and eyes when her back was playing up. Other days she would be all right and her face looked relaxed. It's a long unpredictable road through life so don't make it tough for yourself if you ever do need assistance.

Once again I want a living wage for those who need it pensioners of all kinds first.
But we have to pay for it one way or the other.
My though is super, pay while you work, is the best way.
Lets not confuse home ownership with wealth, my country cottage is not going to make me rich.
I will die here and it would struggle to bring $180.000
Maximillion your problem drives you to find cash we just do not have.
Just as threads 2 years old here forcast something very like the cash crisis world wide, cry,s about impending problems with growing numbers of pensioners are on record.
One day, hopefully soon, my ALP will truely take the axe to waste in social services.
So the needy not the greedy benefit.

Some are literate computer savvy pensioners, and it is time for you and all the others who support the call for justice and a fair go, to write to Kevin Rudd on his Prime Ministerial contact site. Ask him as a matter of urgency to repeal S 39 Federal Court of Australia Act 1976 and Order 46 Rule 7A Federal Court Rules on Constitutional grounds.

The Constitutional grounds for the repeal or disallowance are:

1. S 79 Constitution says, The federal jurisdiction of and court may be exercised by such number of judges as Parliament prescribes.

2. This means that a Single Judge, as prescribed by the Liberal Party under Malcolm Fraser, in S 39 Federal Court of Australia Act 1976 is illegally prescribed, because unless he or she is from Tasmania and blessed with the proverbial two heads, with two torsos and four arms and legs, it cannot be a judges. This Liberal leader has screwed Australia and repealed an important part of the Constitution without a referendum. That means he has screwed you.

3. It also means that the word Court with a capital letter cannot be used to describe a ch III Constitution court. The Federal Court currently describes itself as a Court. Once again a repeal of S 79 Constitution without a referendum.

4. Order 46 Rule 7A Federal Court Rules is subordinate legislation made by the Judges, so they do not have to work for their $6,000 a week and about $3000 a week for life. This is a handy little bribe, to lawyers, so that they will not upset the Liberal Party supporters in big business, and in their State mates big businesses by doing their job properly. It also means you are stripped of a political right to fight corruption.

5. If you see corruption and cannot get a case filed, you can simply swear. The Labor Party passed the legislation you need to ensure your own old age is comfortable, in the Crimes Act 1914 ( Cth): S 28 guarantees your political rights, to access a court exercising federal jurisdiction

God helps those who help themselves, and God, or more appropriately His current representative in Australia Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second has given us all the legislation we need to help ourselves, to almost unlimited funds. It is almost as if a rock has been placed in the highway, so we cannot pass, and that rock is S 39 Federal Court of Australia Act 1976 and Order 46 Rule 7A Federal Court Rules. Arise my grey headed mates, and do something for your country.

The Prime Ministerial website is: http://www.pm.gov.au/contact/index.cfm

If you think KR ought to know about this Liberal Party corruption, continued by control freak, Tony Abbot, Philip Ruddock and John Howard, and continued so far by the Hon Robert McClelland, and his band of inherited lawyer mafia, in the Attorney General’s department, then here is how you do it.

You drag over the post in OLO. You will see it darkened. Then hit control c on your keyboard. Next click on the link to his site. It will come up after a bit, depending on your internet connection, fill in the details, and send it off to Kevin. Kevin has a staffer called Alex Anderson, Assistant Secretary Legal Policy Branch. She has been refusing on his behalf to acknowledge one Judge offends S 116 Constitution .

She asserts that creating a Court with a one man Judge, in not an offence against S 116 Constitution, in a letter dated 30th January 2009. KR should know it is because it forces you and me to scrape our bellies, on the ground and crawl to a Judge for justice. Because of the above cited Queen, a court should be a church, because She is the head Honcho of the Anglicans, and One Judge is the same as a Roman Catholic priest. For that reason, KR an Anglican should know we are right. 90% of Roman Catholics never go to church after they leave school, but all must now go to confession before a Single Judge, instead of 12 members of the congregation, as Almighty God and the Constitution intended