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Our Pension Increase

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not a lot of difference IMHO

we have good guys at both ends

OP and Me have our asses hanging out with no money

then we have a Rectum with heaps, going fishin

the bad guys are those that have HUGE super assured by Future Fund but only put in about 14% to FUND it
Posted by Divorce Doctor, Monday, 18 May 2009 3:22:24 PM
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As I was studying for my law degree, I came across a funny word, or two called Qui Tam. As a diligent aged student, I decided to find out what it was all about. I found on the net lots of references to it in the United States, but none here of recent origin. Then I went looking again and found that in 1970, in New South Wales the Parliament repealed the Common Law Procedure Act 1899 and the Qui Tam action was embedded in that Act. Gone, and with it millions and millions of dollars a year in revenue. Section 24 (c.) of the Act said: Any person aggrieved by breach of statute can specially indorse a writ to collect the damages.

Those of you who saw Erin Brokovich , the movie, would know the case settled for $330 million dollars, and was a Qui Tam action. She got $22 million I believe. It was always a part of our law, and still is, but now they have abolished jury trials as of right, it is in recess. The law is still there but a Judge will kill your case before you can get it going. This really annoyed Henry VII and he made a law that prohibited any Judge, from doing so, 4 Hen 7 Ch 20 [1487] and that is still law, but telling it to a Judge, is like talking to a post.

This is from Wiki: In common law, a writ of qui tam is a writ whereby a private individual who assists a prosecution can receive all or part of any penalty imposed. Its name is an abbreviation of the Latin phrase qui tam pro domino rege quam pro se ipso in hac parte sequitur, meaning "[he] who sues in this matter for the king as [well as] for himself."

Pensioners have time to think. Working lawyers do not. The penalty for sitting as a Judge, is set at $33,000 for an individual and $165,000 from the Court. That is why lawyers hate anyone who is not a lawyer. They like their rorts
Posted by Peter the Believer, Monday, 18 May 2009 4:21:54 PM
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Most pensioners are still mentally active for lots of years after they retire. It is probably time for you to ask the Commonwealth to restore your common law right to a Qui Tam action, and make the Federal Court capable of hearing it. It has the power under S 23 Federal Court of Australia Act 1976 to issue a Writ of Qui Tam, and the laws to give the prosecutor half are all in place. If you see the previous post, Qui Tam is explained.

A pensioner would only need a couple of those to set himself up for the rest of his life, and there are plenty of cases out there begging for a prosecutor. In Stars and Stripes, cases involving personal injuries are cited, but frauds, scams by insurance companies, scams by Governments and public servants all come within their ambit. However you need to complain to your local member that the Federal Court has S 39 Federal Court of Australia Act 1976 still in it, blocking your chances, and Order 46 Rule 7A Federal Court Rules allowing a criminal Registrar to protect his mates the Judges, and the legal profession.

Ask for these two little monopoly pieces of legislation to be repealed, or recognized as un- Constitutional, and put a bit of un in your life, un-poverty. If you don’t ask you wont get, and if you keep asking, Kevin will give you what you want or the other lot will.

Oh and just a suggestion, start going to church. Find a fun one to go to, and pray for justice. The idea behind Qui Tam, was that sinners should pay for their sins, not by going to jail, but by paying the prosecutor and the King. Its Christian government at its best, forgiveness after repentance, and a few bob for the prosecutor.

The Commonwealth has agreed to pay for the juries required, so they may as well have the half you don’t get, but the States could get it too, if they are a bit broke. There gold in that thar courthouse a waitin for you.
Posted by Peter the Believer, Monday, 18 May 2009 4:40:55 PM
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* the millions poured into highly profitable private companies, coal, oil, etc*

Maxi, where is the Govt pouring millions into profitable oil and
coal companies? I think you will find that what they pay in
resource tax, payroll tax, income tax etc, is enormous and keeps
the wheels on the Govt cart. In fact its the huge drop in company
profits that has caused a large part of this current deficit,
along with the cash splashes etc.

111$ billion is a huge welfare bill and with more and more people
on welfare for one reason or another, those geese laying the golden
eggs are being stretched further and further. Stretch them too far,
as you suggest and they might just fly away and lay their eggs elsewhere.
Posted by Yabby, Monday, 18 May 2009 4:52:18 PM
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111$ billion is a huge welfare bill and with more and more people
on welfare for one reason or another, ..

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please break this up

the thread is about OAP, not Lonely Mothers Pension

OAPensioners worked for 50 years, paid tax, raised kids on their OWN money and DESERVE pension

Lonely Mothers just got preg and lived off welfare and don't deserve pension

Let's keep whole thing in perspective
Posted by Divorce Doctor, Monday, 18 May 2009 9:22:30 PM
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"OAPensioners worked for 50 years, paid tax, raised kids on their OWN money and DESERVE pension"

"Lonely Mothers just got preg and lived off welfare and don't deserve pension"

Well that made my jaw drop. You serious?

"They just got preg"? OPS's worked for 50 years?

Did they? You know them all?

Are you very young? The very young talk about things being fair, people being deserving, overgeneralise a lot. Butt in to other peoples conversations and then demand perspective.

I hope someone is benefitting from my husbands tax dollars besides, as Peter says, the Courts.
Posted by Jewely, Monday, 18 May 2009 9:41:28 PM
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