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Swine flu. How serious is this going to be?
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Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 30 April 2009 8:01:05 AM
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Foxy
I share your concern. I was guilty of the saying that same cliche "they've had a good run" myself until my own mother became so very frail. We have probably become closer during the past two years given her struggle and determination to live. And I value that very much. As for whether this latest flu mutation will result in a pandemic, I believe that the scare brought about by SARS and bird flu has resulted in a level of preparation that may just prevent a pandemic. Posted by Fractelle, Thursday, 30 April 2009 8:09:25 AM
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...The report went on to note,‘Residents claimed that three pediatric cases,all under two years of age, died from the outbreak.
However, health officials stated that there was no direct link between the pediatric deaths and the outbreak;they stated the three fatal cases were“isolated”and“not related”to each other.’ ..the aspect of the story which has been largely ignored by major media,they reported,‘Residents believed the outbreak had been caused by contamination from pig breeding farms located in the area. They believed that the farms,operated by Granjas Carroll,polluted the atmosphere and local water bodies,which in turn led to the disease outbreak...According to residents,the company denied responsibility for the outbreak and attributed the cases to“flu.” However,a municipal health official stated that preliminary investigations indicated that the disease vector was a type of fly that reproduces in pig waste and that the outbreak was linked to the pig farms.’4 Since the dawn of American‘agribusiness,’a project initiated with funding by the Rockefeller Foundation in the 1950’s to turn farming into a pure profit maximization business,US pig or hog production has been transformed into a highly efficient,mass production industrialized enterprise from birth to slaughter. Pigs are caged in what are called Factory Farms,industrial concentrations which are run with the efficiency of a Dachau or Bergen-Belsen concentration camp. The entire operation is vertically integrated from conception to slaughter Granjas Carroll de Mexico(GCM)happens to be such a Factory Farm concentration facility for hogs...In 2008 they produced almost one million factory hogs, 950,000 according to their own statistics. GCM is a joint venture operation owned 50% by the world’s largest pig producing industrial company,Smithfield Foods of Virginia.5 The pigs are grown in a tiny rural area of Mexico,a member of the North American Free Trade Agreement,and primarily trucked across the border to supermarkets in the USA,under the Smithfields’family of labels. Most American consumers have no idea where the meat was raised. Now the story becomes interesting. Manure Lagoons and other playing fields... http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=1636 much more revealation at main site the bankers scam is further revealed and reviled his contoled media lies to you figure it out Posted by one under god, Thursday, 30 April 2009 9:19:13 AM
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I do sometimes wish that when serious things came along, people could give their media/government/drug-company conspiracy theories a rest, but no, if anything they ramp them up. If we were in person, I'd tell you to lay off the silliness for just a while, but I guess on the net that's an impossibility.
On the one hand, the WHO has played down the threat, saying that there have only been seven confirmed deaths in Mexico and one confirmed death in the US. On the other hand, they've upped the pandemic warning from 4 to 5 out of 6. This is mostly due to the fact that there have now been fatalities in two countries. It's important to note that the fatality in the US was a 23 month old toddler. The virus has killed mostly strong people in their 20s. Apprently this is because our immune system over-reacts and causes damage to our lungs. With strong, young people, this effect is worse as the immune system is stronger. Which isn't to say other ages are protected, as evidenced by the death of the US toddler. Still, we're not seeing widespread death and destruction yet. Things aren't yet at the very grim stage, but certainly, they're concerning. One other thing to note - earlier I said the virus is airborne, as are many news outlets. Technically, this is incorrect, according to the WHO. It's spread by droplets - the virus can be within droplets which can be sneezed, etc, but it can't simply fly around on its own, so it's not technically airborne. Posted by TurnRightThenLeft, Thursday, 30 April 2009 10:49:16 AM
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TRTL. The boy who cried woof. We all know that story, don't we. So if we take your view, as a way to look at all major events around the world, then when the real thing takes place, it will be laughed away and then its too late.
Best to take it seriously like most do, then dismiss it, not before. I would rather jump to conclusions first, then ask question later. "To be or not to be" well, its looks like not to be. This time. EVO Posted by EVO2, Thursday, 30 April 2009 3:27:55 PM
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Evo, my point was about making conspiracy theories at the instant chaos happens.
Sure, afterwards we can dissect which megalomaniacal group manipulated the sheep-like masses with devastating cunning, but really, at the onset of a serious situation, do we really need more grassy-knoll theorising? Posted by TurnRightThenLeft, Thursday, 30 April 2009 4:53:44 PM
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I don't know what extra procedures that means.