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Swine flu. How serious is this going to be?
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Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 5 May 2009 9:22:16 AM
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"Well at the moment if you loose your business, or your job and you have 'assets' then you will not get the dole straight away. All I am saying is that it appears that the farmers get relief when it doesn’t rain and relief when it rains too much.”
Is it a romantic view of farming that keeps the government giving them relief? The little three bedroom house on a huge plot of land and they get up at dawn and slog away until sunset and we should all help them if in drought or flood. The news doesn’t show the farmer living in an 8 bedroom mansion, indoor pool, with acres of overwatered lush gardens. Agriculture was important for a long time, it drove the country yeah? But the relief is probably based in some nostalgic view of farming…? So can someone tell me the real purpose of the help? “Now most businesses that close have been trading at a loss until such time as all their reserves have been exhausted, then they shut.” One doesn’t often here a business complaining that times are too good and they have money to burn. Risk and Reward baby. But another thought was that I am guessing that businesses pay a lot of tax and it must be less than pleasant to see tax money go to one industry in the form of relief and not others. How is it decided when, under what circumstances and how help is given? “As for diseases I still say that globalisation is our biggest problem. The world has become too small and too accessible to many.” I disagree, that was far too easy to blame people going places. This speaks towards how disease moves not why it occurred Posted by Jewely, Tuesday, 5 May 2009 10:45:47 AM
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PF explains further:
“Not as small as in the pig world rehctub. Thousands upon thousands of pigs crammed into sheds. No sunlight no natural stimulation. Forced to live with their own excrement. Artificial heat, lighting, reproduction, growth stimulants, hormones and the overuse of antibiotics and other drugs. Add in the frightening amount of toxic effluent they produce along with the threat it presents to air and water quality, and we have a giant, very efficient disease incubator. How long can we bury our heads in the sand?” I think one should check out the wallet on the bits remaining out of the sand PF. Obviously only money could allow a person who knows they are responsible for treating animals like this to sleep well at night. Well there is another reason but in invokes horror. So in Aussie – because I have been looking and can’t work it out. Who polices these intensive farms to ensure the animals are healthy, let alone born and living in an environment that does not shame this nation? “I think it's the animals' revenge. And how richly deserved!” Wow. I think the animals got it wrong Nicky2, aren’t they being slaughtered now and also dying from the disease themselves? But UnderOneGod is saying it wasn't the pigs...? Posted by Jewely, Tuesday, 5 May 2009 10:51:46 AM
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http://www.audioacrobat.com/play/WbS2yRZs Posted by eftfnc, Tuesday, 5 May 2009 4:34:20 PM
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“Not as small as in the pig world rehctub. Thousands upon thousands of pigs crammed into sheds. No sunlight no natural stimulation. Forced to live with their own excrement. Artificial heat, lighting, reproduction, growth stimulants, hormones and the overuse of antibiotics and other drugs. Add in the frightening amount of toxic effluent they produce along with the threat it presents to air and water quality, and we have a giant, very efficient disease incubator.
I really think you two need to get out and see how an aussie piggery is run. They don't stand in their own waste, that is rubbish. They are on suspended floors and the waste falls though and is washed away. Nor do they polute their water as they water from 'nipples'ot troughs. Our piggeries are the cleanest in the world and remember, they are purpose bred for 'food'. They are not pets, nor should they be treated as such. There is no difference between a farmer growing barramundi and one growing pigs. They both do it for a living and supply the demand. If you animal walfare lot had your way we would be growing our 'food animals' in airconditioned resorts, which may be a good idear except the consumer just won't pay the price. And finnaly, as OUG says, swine flu is not caused by pigs. Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 5 May 2009 8:18:55 PM
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A few too many assumptions rehctub and an obvious lack of knowledge of the pig industry. An industry that relies on ignorance for its survival.
Posted by PF, Tuesday, 5 May 2009 8:50:01 PM
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this swine flue DONT COME FROM PIGS[go ahead and let the govt subversives make their distractions, all they like, if your pasivly taking your info from the media your being decieved
search out the links posted, they prove cdc supplied the virus to novisvac/baxter in 2004, who announced the vacine, near the same time the beta test was announced in mexico[the test has revealed the recombination od swine, bird and human flues arnt as virile as thye swine fluye[1918] it was based on
the 1918 flue was vectored by the vacine[just as the next outbreak will be vectord by the neo[new] novis/baxter vacine[that will be made compulsory the next time the media plays it bankers ordered spin game[predicted to be about june]
after you all get the shots it will be revealed [just like 1918...just like sars..that ooops some live virus was in the vacine[and you never noticed these epidemics allways come along with the market collapse]or times govt is passing through its adgenda and needs a destraction for the sheep[le..
[baaa baaa [back to the bleatup back to the govt subversives trolling topic redirections,yes men/women doing as they are ordered..[even unto treason]..god less trolls..[much like that opt-us advert with the ghoul flashing in your faces]..subliminal's you barely notice