Continued

The quandary is whether to allow this discovery as to Fractelle's search methodology to remain uncommitted to cyberspace, to allow this veritable amethyst, this purple jewel of diligent detective discovery, to possibly forever escape notice within the OLO firmament, or not. An immensely stressful situation. (Note to self: always be prepared to take Fraccers absolutely literally in future, especially with respect to inverted commos. Winning in debate to her is everthing.)

As at many such times, training and inculcated discipline take over. The body reacts automatically. Fingers type. Words appear upon the page in meaningful comprehensible order. The electronic page before me tells me what I think. The truth comes out before my eyes!

The times they have been a changin'! I wade through shards of shattered glass ceiling, stunned by the change to the built environment that I see. I look down and see that I have been cut by glass so sharp there was no pain when it happened. (Mental note: I must put some antiseptic on that cut soon.) The implications of the decline in publication of 'sexy magazines for men' in just six days from 149 to 132 titles, coupled with the 25% increase in titles of 'sexy magazines for women' in the same period, is indicative of the rapidity of the change. More evidence for global warming, I suppose.

Here and there amidst the debris lie the broken bodies of some of the vanguard of the SS, the Seiling Shatterers, distinguishable by their black armbands. The wounded, unknowing of the outcome that has been achieved, cast about for someone to blame for their condition: for all their one-time fearsomeness, it is impossible not to feel some pity for their plight. Imagine fighting, and winning, in such a battle to find that the building itself has been condemned, is unsustainable.

I gaze upon the scene.

Unbelieving, I search for explanation.

I question whether in the use of her search result statistics Fractelle has committed a breach of online trust. Could she have been tr......? I stop myself. Mustn't use the 'T' word.

Foxy,

'I don't think that Fractelle is saying that all
men are aroused by visual stimulation, or that
that's the only criteria that get's a man's interest.'

Well that's the logical conclusion from her words. EVERY Man seeing a performer and deciding instantly, without even speaking to her or hearing her speak, that they would not f*!k her. Seeing her is the only criteria needed. Even worse, every man has sex on the mind, and they even feel the need to categorise women as NOT fuckable. I mean, I can understand the odd attracted man thinking he'd like to do so, but even those not attracted aren't indifferent, they actually feel the need to denigrate her as unworthy of ever being f*)ked. In Fractelle's world it's definately the only criteria that matters.

I noted also in the other thread, Fractelle used the phrase she 'Knows Men'. Now, imagine if someone said they 'Know asians' or the 'know black people', or they 'know jews'. Fractelle reduces men to this 'other', based on a group of guys she knew who worked out her bra size.

Forest,

'The wounded, unknowing of the outcome that has been achieved, cast about for someone to blame for their condition: for all their one-time fearsomeness'

That's very well written.

I'm still waiting for any actual evidence of the other premises upon which Fractelle's argument was inspired. Namely,

'a number of male posters denied assessing women in a sexual way'

(Perhaps that 'number' was 0?)

I really think one should look on this supposed difference and think, why are women so nasty that they refuse to seek out naked pictures of men. To deny men the ego trip of being desired and ogled in this way. To deny the beauty of the naked male body by their indifference. To refuse to 'sexualise' us.

I think we still have a long way to go before we reach some equality in the worshipping of the male body.

Not at all Houelles. I'll have you know that I have had some jolly good fun worshipping the male body for many years.

Please don't make such erroneous statements. For all its funny shape, its sticky out bits are quite utilitarian!

(For starters I need somewhere to hang my handbag...)

Dear Yabby, Antiseptic, and Houellebecq,

Gentlemen, no one is claiming to be the "victim,"
here. The facts that I've presented were obtained
from sociological studies.

As I pointed out in a previous post - you don't have to
agree with these facts.

However, we all know that social inequality
exists when some people have a greater share of power,
wealth, or prestige than others.
Such inequality is as old as
society itself., and throughout history it has been a
constant source of tension.

Men and women are treated in different ways
and different patterns of behaviour
are expected from them.

Anyway, I really don't have anything more that I can add
to this discussion. I don't want to go over the same old
theme of gender inequality that we've hashed out in previous
threads.

As for not finding male centrefolds attractive?
Now that's just plain stirring.
Re-read my posts - and take a look at the web-site
I gave.

Sorry Ginx, I'm not quite sure I understand.

>>For all its funny shape, its sticky out bits are quite utilitarian! (For starters I need somewhere to hang my handbag...)<<

If you are able to hang your handbag on it, Ginx... why would you?

Forrest

I just tried the google search again as: "sexy magazines for women", no double quotes (across the web)and this time garnered 5 entries. And I have to agree that does seem low. So i tried again without any quotes and got 1-1,940,000 - which does seem a little more realistic. For men I got (without quotes, across web) 1-2,090,000. I would've expected a greater disparity, after all one doesn't see alot of raunch for women in the local magazine racks. Maybe you have to go to Canberra ;-)

Therefore I did not intentionally try to play with the stats - why should I? I know full well that there are those he seek to denigrate me any way they can.

We do live in a world which is dominated by the male POV. And it is changing, very, very slowly. Part of the reason is it is hard to even discuss the topic - look at the disparagement the some male posters come out with - makes one question why they are soooo defensive? Afraid that the female gaze will be turned on them? It always has been we women just don't make as much noise about it.

Anyway, I do notice that you have declined, thus far, to take the brain test. Only Pericles has shown the courage of a true statesman - just like his namesake.

I think this topic has been covered fairly well looking at it from cultural as well as biological aspects. All I have managed to prove is that on some topics some people will not look at all sides, like religion and politics, guess this is why those topics used to be banned at dinner parties.

Thanks to all, especially those who tried to bait me, heh heh - nice try but, er, no cigar.

PS

Ginx it is a free world and you can hang your handbag where-ever you like, however I suggest a place that is less likely to drop your bag on the floor.