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Does Obama know better than Adams, Jefferson and Churchill or were they Islamophobes?

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KMB,

No, Hitler was only the climax of nearly 2000 years of Christian persecution of the Jews. In many European countries such as Lithuania and France during WW2 the populations took the licence presented by Hitler to carry out their own extermination of thousands of Jews.

It is only the depravity of the concentration camps and gas chambers that shamed nations around the world into disavowing entrenched anti-semiticism that existed until then in their own countries.

As to your quotes from the Koran it says a lot about your agenda when you not only take them out of context but misquote as well.

An example;

You wrote "* Kill the disbelievers wherever we find them (Sura 2:191)."

The verse actually says "You may kill those who wage war against you, and you may evict them whence they evicted you. Oppression is worse than murder. Do not fight them at the Sacred Masjid, unless they attack you therein. If they attack you, you may kill them. This is the just retribution for those disbelievers."

Followed by [2:192] "If they refrain, then GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful."

And [2:193] You may also fight them to eliminate oppression, and to worship GOD freely. If they refrain, you shall not aggress; aggression is permitted only against the aggressors.

The preceding verse was [2:190] "You may fight in the cause of GOD against those who attack you, but do not aggress. GOD does not love the aggressors."

In light of your rewrites why can't we view your actions as hatemongering? Isn't this just a switching of targets by some in the West, from Jews to Muslims?
Posted by csteele, Tuesday, 28 April 2009 12:29:40 AM
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ok cs maybe your number is the british ones
http://www.somethingjewish.co.uk/articles/1857_richest_jews_in_brit.htm

or try 36 percent
http://www.jewishtribalreview.org/forbes.htm

its not easy info to find
some in depth research here
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=22003
or here
http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-leaders-list-of-jewish-millionaires.html

i dont like rebutting the dudes distortions
but like i said there are two sides to the coin

anyhow the really rich have trust funds[my dfigure came from last year rich list[it was over 50%]and many of the others worked for jewish masters, its not really a secret, the info is just hard to track down

[google search puts up many bad search results just for the term jewwatch], you get .orgs , jew jew etc ..but not the jewwatch.com]

its just the way it is

this is the 3 rd search result
http://www.petitiononline.com/rjw23/
but the .com dont even rate the first page
such is the true power due
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 28 April 2009 12:53:09 AM
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anyhow more on the pig link
http://passion4science.blogspot.com/
some great links revealed here[current 2 de post is very astute..[i wish i could write like that..lol]..but god gave me skills to search other peoples words[lol]

its sad being a responder who corrects error
but some more links re the new renamed mex swine/bird/.human mutant flue from
http://republicbroadcasting.org/?cmd=archives
which has the active links[here is the topic headings[thats all kmg reads anyhow..lol]
Hate Bill Vote Could Be Tuesday
WHO raises pandemic flu alert level to phase 4
Napolitano: Closing border not the answer to flu

Mexico’s Flu Death Toll Rises, While U.S. Confirms 40 Cases
The First Global Revolution: Blueprint for a new global order
US military ‘monitoring’ flu outbreak

40 swine flu cases in US; agents checking borders

Schertz, Texas, closes all schools due to local swine flu cases
Powerful Earthquake Rocks Swine Flu Plagued Mexico City
Russia Suspends Mexican, Some U.S. Meat Imports

Mexican swine flu deaths spark worldwide action
Israeli suspected of having swine flu in Mideast first

Canada confirms first cases of swine flu
Mexico fights swine flu with ‘pandemic potential’
Top Cancer Scientist Commits Suicide Using Highly Toxic Chemicals..lol

The IMF: Raping The World,..One Poor Nation at a Time
Fertility expert:..‘I can clone a human being’
Green Group Calls For Once Child Policy

Sen...Patrick“Leaky”Leahy to Investigate Top Secret Interrogations
The Torture Issue That Won’t Go Away

Economic Fallout Hits Families Hard: More Women and Children on the Streets
Hugo and Barack: Two Sides of the Same Coin
Is Cigarette Control Turning Citizens into Criminals?
Hijacking The Tea Party: Watch Out For Gingrich

1976 Swine Flu Propaganda

anyhow time to find out what really hapend
http://whatreallyhappened.com/
while listening live to the rep radio link[ya all missed some good revelations in the last few hours...lol
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 28 April 2009 10:50:26 AM
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The Protocols Of Zion..A one page summary
http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/03/19/the-protocols-of-zion-summary/

Goyim are mentally inferior to Jews and can’t run their nations properly.For their sake and ours,..we need to abolish their governments and replace them with a single government...This will take a long time and involve much bloodshed,but it’s for a good cause...Here’s what we’ll need to do:

*Place our agents and helpers everywhere
*Take control of the media and use it in propaganda for our plans
*Start fights between different races,..classes and religions
*Use bribery,threats and blackmail to get our way
*Use Freemasonic/Lodges to attract potential public officials
*Appeal to successful people’s egos
*Appoint puppet leaders who can be controlled by blackmail
*Replace royal rule with socialist rule,..then communism,..then despotism
*Abolish all rights and freedoms,except the right of force by us

*Sacrifice people(including Jews sometimes)when necessary
*Eliminate religion;replace it with science and materialism
*Control the educationmedia/banking.political-system's to spread deception and destroy intellect

*Rewrite history to our benefit
*Create entertaining distractions
*Corrupt minds with filth and perversion
*Encourage people to spy on one another
*Keep the masses in poverty and perpetual labor

*Take possession of all wealth,property and(especially)gold
*Use gold to manipulate the markets,cause depressions etc.
*introduce a progressive tax on wealth
*Replace sound investment with speculation
*Make long-term interest-bearing loans to governments
*Give bad advice to governments and everyone else

Eventually the Goyim will be so angry with their governments(because we’ll blame them for the resulting mess)that they’ll gladly have us take over...We will then appoint a descendant of David to be king of the world,and the remaining Goyim will bow down and sing his praises. Everyone will live in peace and obedient order under his glorious rule.

THE PROTOCOLS OF ZION(complete protocols&summary)
http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Protocols.in.Modern.English.htm
http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/03/19/2009/03/11/the-modern-state-of-israel-providence-miracle-or-what-really-happened/
http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/03/19/2009/03/16/six-jewish-companies-own-96-of-the-worlds-media/
http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/03/19/2009/03/10/please-dont-riot-its-just-what-they-want/
http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/03/19/2009/03/02/zionist-jewish-hollywoods-brainwashing-of-america/
more liks at top link..lol
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 28 April 2009 11:07:03 AM
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One Under God,

Why do you even read this crap much less peddle it?

Your jewwatch.com link has Bill Gates and Warren Buffet listed as MARANO - HIDDEN JEW - PSEUDO-JEW. What the hell? So has the racist idiom that if your a Jew you must be rich progessed to if you are rich you must be a Jew? Can't you see how ludicrous this is?

I looked up MARANO in Wikipedia because I hadn't come across it before and the term refers to the forced Jewish converts to Christianity in Spain who were deemd to be 'secret jews'. It means 'pig' in Spanish.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marano

Ironically it is a litany of Jewish persecution, even those who escaped to places like Italy "Two years later Pope Paul IV issued orders to have all the conversos thrown into the prisons of the Inquisition which he had instituted. Sixty of them, who acknowledged the Catholic faith as penitents, were transported to the island of Malta; twenty-four, who adhered to Judaism, were publicly burned (May, 1556)."

My point was that why are we accepting of the fact that Jews make up a disproportionate number of Science award reciprients but have a real problem when those statistics are reflected in the business field?

I'm still uneasy judging you UOG without being confident where you stand. Perhaps some enlightening is in order.

This should be an example to KMB of where disinformation and slander can lead
Posted by csteele, Tuesday, 28 April 2009 11:12:50 AM
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"one under god"?? Holy hits!!
Posted by Ginx, Tuesday, 28 April 2009 12:39:32 PM
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