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gender common to all forms of discrimination

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I don't understand what Whistler means by separate women's and men's legislative councils, nor do I see such a form of aparthied as being constructive, progressive or inclusive.

I do know we have a long way to go before there is true equity (as opposed to equality) between the sexes.

Please take the time to watch the video below and imagine if these were the conditions your daughter could be living in without the constant vigilance that men and women of conscience act with every day, even here in a country like Australia.

Thank you.

https://www.planusa.org/becauseiamagirl/takeaction.php
Posted by Fractelle, Friday, 13 March 2009 2:19:07 PM
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what a true article ,the goverment of new south wales covers up the abuse and rapes that occurred in their state institutions whether you are male or female , this is a gender issue

straight to the point no more crap

the goverment knows about us adult victims that were raped and abused as children ,but because of our past history they cover up for the pedophiles who abused us when we were children

this is why nothing has been done in respect of the 2 two senate inquireies the 1st first Forgotten Australians dated august 2004 and the second report Protecting Vulnerable Children In Institutional Care And Out Of Home Care Dated March 2005

this is where their is a discrimination to i a victim of institutioal abuse by staff and many other victims ,the state goverment of N.S.W still covers up till this day

regards huffnpuff

no doubt their will be those out their who will be like the goverment and want a person to shut up well unlucky not happening
Posted by huffnpuff, Friday, 13 March 2009 3:31:41 PM
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smart government utilises collective bargaining between women's and men's legislatures to enable law, in contrast with the individual bargaining in legislatures whose regulatory failure collapsed the global economy.

smart profiling considers the individual in contrast with the stereotypes which issue from bad government.

thanks for the link, Fractelle.

apartheid is the policy of a constitution which mandates men's legislatures and not women's.
Posted by whistler, Friday, 13 March 2009 5:11:16 PM
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I guess it was too much to expect any real clarification.

>>smart government utilises collective bargaining between women's and men's legislatures to enable law, in contrast with the individual bargaining in legislatures whose regulatory failure collapsed the global economy.<<

In what way does "collective bargaining between women's and men's legislatures" suddenly make it smart? And why is it necessary to have the groups separate in the first place?

I know from experience that there is no possible chance of a reply that contains any substance or meaning, as opposed to simply another bunch of words pretentiously strung together.

>>smart profiling considers the individual in contrast with the stereotypes which issue from bad government.<<

Sorry. That is entirely without meaning. An absence. A void. A vaccuum of meaning, even. It does not attempt to answer the question: what is it?

>>apartheid is the policy of a constitution which mandates men's legislatures and not women's.<<

The word "apartheid" is entirely gender neutral. It simply means "separate development". It's from the Dutch, meaning the state of being separate.

A waste of time, I know, but someone has to swat the flies.
Posted by Pericles, Friday, 13 March 2009 11:57:01 PM
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Please, please, please don't read the following as a denial. It is a geniune question.

In what jobs do men get paid more than women for doing the same thing? I ask because I have always been employed by organisations that have set pay structures. Actually, I have only had two employers: a large retailer, where pay scales were governed by an enterprise agreement and had no distinction between genders, and Education Queensland, where pay scales show no distinction between genders. Thus I have always been paid the same as my female colleagues. Certainly, there is an argument that men advance through the ranks quicker - despite the fact that females dominate the teaching profession, I have never attended or worked at a school with a female principal. Principals get paid more than deputies, HODs or teachers, but if my male principal was replaced with a female tomorrow, she would take over exactly the same pay package.

My question is based on a lack of experience in the workforce - I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction!
Posted by Otokonoko, Saturday, 14 March 2009 12:51:56 AM
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Otokonoko:"In what jobs do men get paid more than women for doing the same thing"

None of them. That would be illegal. a small matter that seems to be conveniently forgotten about when the feminist entitlement junkies start their spieling.

Otokonoko:"there is an argument that men advance through the ranks quicker - despite the fact that females dominate the teaching profession, I have never attended or worked at a school with a female principal."

Both of ny children attend schools that have female principals. One is at Mansfield State School and the other is at Holland Park State High.

The perception of faster advancement for men may be directly related to their relative proportions, in that if there is a perceived need for some senior staff to be male (for example, Mansfield has 4 DPs, 2 of each gender) then the small pool of available appointees means that relatively more of them will be selected than would be the case for women. It may also be that many female teachers take time out to attend to family matters, such as childbirth and child raising, thus failing to gain seniority for the time they take out. They may also give an impression of not being committed to their career for the same reason, something that afflicts many women who want a career and motherhood.

I know quite a few teachers and some of them have gone back to teaching after a period pursuing some other career, simply because the conditions are very friendly to mothers with young children.
Posted by Antiseptic, Saturday, 14 March 2009 9:19:39 AM
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