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Foxy,

Thank you.

I was took a test and maxed the left-brain scale. I hope their is sufficient ight-brain left to be sociable and nice. After I think I am a humanist!

Affective emotions such as love, belongingness and comfort would seem to be right-brain. Actually explaining how religions occur and operate in history and, Science in cosmology, physics and biology uncovering the fundamentals of universe and life, would seem to be left-brained.

Theists seem to feel before they think. Atheists (and agnostics)think before they feel. I feel god does not exist (or is unknowable) only after I have tested the data.

Were history and science not so good at providing clear alternatives to the existence of god, I would, and, only then, be less sure of the left-brain reasoned result. Left is right!

Richie,

a. How does a Spirit raise a Jesus? And why does Jesus ascend - as ascending suggests temporal movement of said Jesus? If leaving space-time, why wouldn’t Jesus simply vanish?

b. Surely love is an emotion known not only to the construct, “God”. I would have thought love to be a near universal emotion, as are anger and happiness. To be an atheist, without god, is not being without love or, willingness to sacrifice oneself.

c. If God is all powerful, would not have God had power over sin before the Pentecost event?

If God created sinful, (free willed) humans, who is the First Cause of sin? Would not placing the tree of knowledge and the snake in Eve’s presence be like placing a drink in front of an alcoholic? A responsible person would not tempt an alcoholic. Why would God tempt Eve (and Adam) by orchestrating events towards the Fall.

d. Would not have other mendicants of Jesus’ time appear to raise seemingly dead people. Mendicants were known to Jesus’ time

e. How do you know what god says? If the natural is limited and the supernatural unbounded,how do you tell God from a proficient pretender?

Peace to all

Oly.
Posted by Oliver, Friday, 20 February 2009 1:54:50 PM
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Dear Oly,
If you Truely seek the truth seek Jesus the Christ. If you only want your emotions tickled stick to fiction,Hollywood style.
Posted by Richie 10, Friday, 20 February 2009 7:07:16 PM
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Dear Richie,

Thank you for your post.

Above, my comments were mindful of Christian teachings or the history of Jesus' period. Here, I see nothing impractical in study of the object, Jesus, in addition to, the teachings of Jesus. Logically one would need to assess the fundamentals of the former, before progressing to the latter. If one does know the construct it is a hazard to extrapolate on an unknown or poorly known.

If we say the Truth is Jesus & Jesus is the Truth,we have a circular argument. Can you not see it?

Regards,

Oliver
Posted by Oliver, Friday, 20 February 2009 7:32:56 PM
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Dear Oliver,
I didn't have the advantage of much formal education and am alive only by Gods grace so my Knowledge of Jesus is through personal experience only which lines up with the bible writings.When you have experienced hell on earth and only have God left to call on then you might begin to understand God who is Love not some vaig concept or conversation topic.
Posted by Richie 10, Friday, 20 February 2009 9:33:01 PM
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Dear Richie,

Thank you for your explanation.

Regards,

Oliver
Posted by Oliver, Saturday, 21 February 2009 12:09:35 PM
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Oliver

I answered your question regarding whether I thought my choice to reject religion was right or left brain oriented - did you have a response or an agenda to elaborate on right versus left brain influence in believing in religion or not?

Truth to tell, your exchanges with the pious Richie aren't progressing your original topic and of interest only to you both.
Posted by Fractelle, Saturday, 21 February 2009 12:16:14 PM
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