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The Dirty War : US military toxic pollutants

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After watching the program on SBS, Monday,
January 12, 2009 - where it showed that the
US has been depositing its military toxic
pollutants in various parts of the world,
with the resultant contaminating effect of
genetically damaging the local populations.

I can't help but wonder what would our Government
say if approached by the US? Apparently the US
is seeking new sites, and we can fully expect
to be approached.

Should our government agree to giving the US sites
in any of our Northern Territories?

Your thoughts?
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 12 January 2009 1:50:26 PM
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Hi Foxy.
I think, if asked, Australia would receive their contaminanted stuff.

What could we really do?

We rely on the USA coming to our aid if Indonesia or China get stroppy.

They have their secret bases here and that gives them a huge hold over good old Australia.

In a sense I think they own us and we are bound to follow.
Not that Im complaining though.
Better the American we know than the asian who would dominate and oppress us.

Hmmmm...hotdogs.
Posted by Gibo, Monday, 12 January 2009 5:05:14 PM
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I must agree with Gibo here: we don't really have a choice.

But why limit the discussion to "military toxic pollutants"?
America generates toxic pollutants of all kinds (not just military), that harm both body and mind. As individuals we can avoid some of those, for example by keeping away from McDonalds, Coca Cola, TV and commercial ads, but as a nation, Gibo is right - the alternatives are no better.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 12 January 2009 6:49:28 PM
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A bit of a diversion. The Independent recently reported that the marine territory of Somalia is being used as a dumping ground for all sorts of dangerous toxic waste. Maybe the US and Co. doesn't need Australia after all.

Seriously though, the whole business is dodgy. As the Somalian Government is dysfunctional, it seems that global environmental polluters are taking full advantage. Somali pirates have different ideas and have taken on a freelance role. All power to them if it keeps the bad boys honest.
Posted by RobP, Monday, 12 January 2009 7:39:55 PM
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Dear Gibo, Yuyutsu, RobP,

Gibo, Yuyutsu, you're both probably right -
our Government will agree with whatever
the US asks (Howard's set the example), unfortunately.

What is of great concern to me is the fact that
geologically Australia has underground porous
water catchment areas that farmers, rural towns,
places like Adelaide, rely on bore water from these
underground storage areas, and any contaminants
buried near the surface will permeate into these
underground water storage areas poisoning the water.
That is the danger of allowing toxic waste to be stored
in Australia.

And Gibo, hot dogs won't be enjoyable, if you've got
nothing to wash them down with... (just a thought).

RobP, I think the US is very interested in Australia
as a dumping ground for their waste, because they've
already stuffed up worldwide with their pollutants.
(Phillipines is a prime example).

Anyway, we should also be concerned with what's really
happening on the US bases that are on our shores.
In the film I saw there were interviews with defense
experts and environmentalists as well as close-up
shots of rotting, leaking drums, and
awful information about the severe environmental
damage caused by the US basis in the Phillipines.

It should send us warning signals. The US bases in OZ
need to be checked for the damage they're doing, and
get them to clean up their act.

But, I guess I'm dreaming, right?
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 12 January 2009 8:29:07 PM
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I think we’ve got plenty of choice. All Rudd needs to do is to point how good an ally li’’le ol’ Oz to big old Yankeeland, and that one mate shouldn’t be asking a really good mate to take any of its toxic waste…..especially when there are plenty of other places to put the stuff, where relationships are not so good and those in charge are much more likely to say; ‘yes, we’ll take your toxic garbage if you pay us to do so….and um…you really don’t have to pay us very much, if you don’t complain about a small number of government officials embezzling all the funds!
Posted by Ludwig, Monday, 12 January 2009 8:31:47 PM
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