Belly and Spikey “"Col you invite slagging matches in threads then complain about it."”

Show me where I have complained

If I were to go back over the “slagging off” which has gone on in this thread, we would see most of it originates with Spikey and to be honest Belly, I have been reasonably respectful toward your posts, acknowledging we disagree but deliberately avoiding “playing the man” until you started making comments like suggesting I do not have a “clew”.

I have the same right to express a heart felt opinion as both of you.

I suggest it is arrogant , hypocritical and plain pompous of either of you to pretend you are entitled to hurl abuse at me without me responding in kind.

Further, Belly insists I “live in a world that does not in truth exist”

Well Belly you, In a couple of words are a deluded liar

I quote fact from recent history but you claim it no longer exists whilst denying my reference to the currently recorded practices of Victorian ETU .

And simultaneously criticizing the union movement for its failings.

Instead of historic fact, your analysis relies on your personal aspirations for some glorious future for unions.

When it comes to “world that does not in truth exist”

The truth which is recorded in the world I write about

Is far more substantial than the fantasy and fairy-floss of your imagined future.

Spikey, you are a malignant troll and provocateur
Belly, you are just full of crap.

But you are entitled to post your opinions, just as surely as I am entitled to hold and post mine.

I know the union movement considers itself above the law but they are worng. They might be above the labor party, pulling the strings of government from behind closed doors but the union movements lying mouthpiece puppets, here on OLO, will never shut me up

And that is not me complaining, it is me stating fact.

Col Rouge,

I apologise for saying to you: "I can always tell when you are being bested in an argument (which is often). You get heavily into personal abuse and childish name-calling. An unhappy childhood, perhaps?"

For all I know you had a happy childhood.

Well Col you will never agree I will never except your views, but lets get this right.
I claim no halo for unions, any of them, many sometimes all of them, forget the reason we exist.
It is not to blindly support my ALP no matter what.
It is not to make some union bosses stronger.
It is not to bring socialism or communism to the workplace.
It is to constantly find new ways to help our members, to be the NRMA of the workplace.
Once that meant we often had to go to war, respect for workers was very bad, workchoices got us well on the way back to those dark days.
You find it hard to believe my union is well on the way to the future, you do not want to believe that I find radical extremist unions far more dangerous than some employers.
You would be most upset by being with me at work, workers are my mates, bosses even CEOs ask me to visit offices, we do not need yesterdays tactics, most bosses know a happy workforce is an asset.
Col above all, my work life may not be much longer but my views will never change I lay the blame for views like yours about unionism at the feet of half wits like those who made this claim.
As a result I am targeted daily at work by wallys from the extreme left, and loving it!after all winners are grinner's.