Gibo,

They don't only bath topless where I go, but pantless as well!

There's very little to lust over as there is no mystery. (Added to the fact that most of the bodies on display aren't worth perving at anyway).

Don't confuse nudity with sex. Likewise nudity is not always porn. The reason Middle Eastern men are far over represented in sex crimes is that they have been raised in a culture where they keep their women covered and they don't know how to control themselves in a society where women have more freedom about their dress standards. It's the issue with confusing nudity with sex that is causing all the controversy about breast feeding in public.

As far as young guys thinking about sex all the time Gibo, I think that's an almost normal part of growing up.

Just for the record, I live a very satisfying life without sex.

Crikey people, the cucumber's not for me. I'm all about the giving. Particularly when it's such a wholesome experience as enjoying a good, vitamin-rich cucumber. What can I say? I like creativity in all things.
Besides. For the record, we're still talking about hypotheticals. I don't want me or any of my vegetables to get struck by lightning.

Gibo, you racy harlot! You mean you show your bare thighs at the beach! Goodness gracious.

So, Gibo, you say speedos are permissible - presumably, then, it's okay for women to wear bikinis at the beach?

Is it just the beach? Can people wear bikinis at say... a stadium? What if there's sand at the stadium? What about volleyball? What if it's really hot? Why just the beach?

If it's because a beach is a place for swimming, then I'd ask - are people who wear bikinis or speedos to the beach, but don't swim heinous? What about people who just dip their toes in? How much water contact is required for it to qualify as swimming?

Gibo, if speedos are ok, if I'm wearing them at home and want to walk to the corner store to get some milk... do I need to get changed?

Pericles... let me use an example from Ally McBeal today.

Don't get too paranoid or psychotic about 'pinning me down' on this... I found it interesting and raised it as a discussion... now we are discussing..this is a good thing. I happen to believe the Media does influence morality and I also happen to think this is not a chicken/egg thing but a self evident truth.

Ally was wearing a very short skirt in a courtroom. The judge cited her for contempt for that. She went to jail rather than apologise, and when brought back to court.. called him a pig. She was asked why she wanted to wear such revealing attire in a court of law, and she said with great conviction "Because... I...WANT ... to" aaah.. the 'independant self reliant female'....

Now.. given the way the show was structured... I think at least some women would have said "You go girl!.. yep... stick it to him Ally"

So it can be an issue of 're-inforcement' as much as initiation.
I don't know why you bother to make such a fuss about the original example. You can do much better by looking at other information for and against the assertion. You seem to be rather good at ferreting out info.

Vitamin-rich, TRTL?

>>such a wholesome experience as enjoying a good, vitamin-rich cucumber<<

Only moderately endowed, I'm afraid, vitamin-wise

But many, many wonderful benefits nevertheless.

Here's what hubpages.com has to say

"The flesh of cucumbers is primarily composed of water but also contains ascorbic acid (vitamin C) and caffeic acid, both of which help soothe skin irritations and reduce swelling. Cucumbers'hard skin is rich in fiber and contains a variety of beneficial minerals including silica, potassium and magnesium"

You can't really go past those beneficial minerals, can you? But a small warning there about its propensity to reduce swelling. Not always necessarily a totally desirable side-effect, perhaps.

There's more.

"Cucumbers, scientifically known as Cucumis sativus, are grown to either be eaten fresh or to be pickled. Those that are to be eaten fresh are commonly called slicing cucumbers. They are cylindrical in shape and commonly range in length from about six to nine inches, although they can smaller or much larger. Their skin, which ranges in color from green to white, may either be smoothed or ridged depending upon the variety. Inside a cucumber is a very pale green flesh that is dense yet aqueous and crunchy at the same time, as well as numerous edible fleshy seeds. Some varieties, which are grown in greenhouses, are seedless, have thinner skins and are longer in length, usually between 12 and 20 inches."

Wow.

Not to mention...

"Japanese research in the first half of this century indicated that there was a valuable substance present in the cucumber juice for the treatment of the whole intestinal tract."

Ouch.

I'm over cucumbers, I think I'll git while the gittin's good.

Lebanese cucumbers are my favourite.

Personally,

I just love bananas...