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Forgotten Australians, Qld Redress now fully closed..
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Posted by robertbruce, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 12:15:59 AM
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robert
There are a number of forums that invite comment from Forgotten Australians (a term I don't like because it suggests we re still forgotten - how about 'survivors of institutional care'?). Some that I know of are: Origins (Adoption focus but also supports discussion among Forgotten Australians) http://forums.delphiforums.com/originsharp/start Opinions Paid (a forum for Forgotten Australians and others) http://www.opinionspaid.com/op/forums/t/4712.aspx Historical Abuse Network, Queensland (a support service for Queensland’s Forgotten Australians) http://www.han.merivale.org.au/group/phorum/list.php?&phorum= Wings for Survivors (a forum for Forgotten Australians) http://www.wingsforsurvivors.com/?t=anon Care Leavers of Australia Network (CLAN) A national lobby and support group with newsletters, web site, individual support and meetings. http://www.clan.org.au/pages/index.php Alliance for Forgotten Australians (a national lobby and information group but does not provide services to individuals) http://www.forgottenaustralians.org.au/ Good luck! I hope you can get the support you want. Posted by Spikey, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 11:41:27 AM
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robert,
There have been a number of posters here on OLO that are 'Forgotten Australian' Click on huffnpuff and Frank Gol in the posters list and you will find entensive postings. There are others too, but I can't recall at the moment. They are part of an organization that could be a big help to you in overcoming personal problems. In any case it it good to talk to someone that knows your situation. A number of posters here, including myself, have made representations to the governments and politicians highlighting the need for a recognition and apology for you blokes and girls, but little response I'm afraid. I wish you all the very best and hope you will keep us informed of your progress Posted by Banjo, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 3:31:30 PM
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Dear robertbruce,
You need to go into the website of the Alliance for Forgotten Australians: http://www.forgottenaustralians.org.au/ Their contact details are listed there. They should be able to at least point you in the right direction for further contacts and help. My heart goes out to you. Good Luck. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 7:14:59 PM
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Foxy
The Alliance for Forgotten Australians doesn't provide support of that kind for individuals. It's a talkfest. Tell robert to try CLAN which is a national hands-on support group. Or HAN in Queensland. http://www.clan.org.au/pages/index.php Posted by Spikey, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 9:38:06 PM
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thank-you everyone for your links, they all look great... and thank-you for your support....
Posted by robertbruce, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 1:27:20 PM
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This is A Post That Will Be Continued As Their Is Not Enough Space In The Topic So Follow The Thread As Its In Sections Becuase You Are Only Allowed So Many Words On The Site This Is a Urgent Post For All Victims All FORGOTTEN AUSTRALIANS By Huffnpuff
Hi To All The Forgotten Australians Out Their Who Were In Orpthanages, Girls Homes, Boys homes Remand Centres State Ward Homes church State Run homes foster Homes Out Of Home Care And Hello To Our Fellow Members Here On O.L.O, Those Of Us Whome Are Forgotten Australians And To Those Who are Not If Our Country Is To Be A County The Way It Should Be This Would Mean That The State Goverment Of New South Wales Should Stand Up For Us Victims,That were Raped And Abused In These State Institutions, that Were Under The Control Of The Goverment Of New South Wales And That Of Other States Of Australia , The New South Wales Sate Goverment Still To This Day Cover Up The Rapes And Rapes We Victims Sufferd While We Were Been made Their Slaves While Under State care We Are The Real Victims The Goverment does Not Want The Public And The Communities To Know About Becuase it The Truth Is Too daming For The Goverment To addmitt The Truth Of What We Victims Suffered , By Those Very People That They Employed At These Institutions I Know This From Experince i Had been Fighting For Justice For Over Ten Years in The New South Wales Court System Brown V State of New South Wales This Case Was Lost In favour Of The State Of New South Wales Even When They Stipulated In The Court Room In Front Of The Judges That The record Log Books had Been destroyed Or Misplacsed Or Lost Excusion Books And misconduct Records The State Still Got away With This In The Court House Posted by huffnpuff, Friday, 5 December 2008 9:53:37 AM
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continued So How are we Victims To get Justice Even When they say These documents have been destroyed Or Lost , and The Victim had never Ever been aware That these documents could Never Be Found , Yet The Courts Still Protected The State Crown Lawyers in This Court case And left The Victim been raped All Over Again
I Can Only Hope That The State Of New South Wales Will Give Justice To Us Victims Of This State New South Wales, And When They Do , Give Justice To Us Victims And That The State take note Of Us Victims Who have Taken Our cases To The Courts For Justice But Were denide justice Have Us On The Top Of Their List To say sorry To And Give justice To Us as Of All The Victims The Courts Of New South Wales Have Been Covering Up For The State Of New South Wales For Far To Long And Need To Be Held Accountable For Us Victims Who they have Thrown out The Court cases In Favour of The State My Hope Of A High Court Appeal Are Over As No lawyer had The Guts To Take On This New South Wales Goverment, And I Stand By What Happend To Me At daruk Boys Home By The Said 2 Pedophiles Of That Institution Who Worked For The State Boys Home Daruk I My Self Have Not The Abilty To Formulate The Documents For A High Court Case Of Which The Judge Would Proberly Still Cover Up For The State Anyway So For Ten Years Fighting For Justice The Right Way by The Law And Still Get Raped And Abused All Over Again, And The state lawyers Just Laugh In Your Face ,Because You Are A No One Today The 4th Of December 2008 Was The Last day To Lodge the Appeal To The High Court so because Of My Interlectual Ability I had no Hope Of having Any Documents drawn Up Fot An Appeal Verbally Yes i would And Could Put My case Forward But They Do Not Allow Tha Posted by huffnpuff, Friday, 5 December 2008 9:58:03 AM
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Im Sorry For All The Other Victims Out Their As I Know My case Was A Win Case But The Courts Have Coverd Up For The Stae Of New South Wales, Once Again And They Will Continue To Do This As Their Is a Lot Of cases Pending In The Sydney Supreme Court For The Same Claims I Took Before The Courts, If Those going before The Courts And Win i Congradulate You As For Me Im Down a Home A Car And Just Surving My Faimly And Children And Grand Children Are My Suport And Freinds , And The Shames Thing Is The attorney General Waqs Asked personally By Me via mailAnd Email And Phone To Help Take This case To The High Court yet has Done Nothing That I Am Aware Of as They have Not Even Been Incontact With Me About Asking For assistants From The attorney General Even kevin Rudd Our Prime Minister Is wiping His Hands of Us Victims He can If He Had The Guts To Stand Up For Us Victims As He has Been Asked many many Time But Yet Has Not Once Mentioned Us So Much Guts From The Man Thats Running Our Country , He Can Not Even Stand UP To The State Goverments Of Australia To address This Issue It Must And Has To Be True That new South wales is The Most Corupt State In australia , Thats Why Peter Hollingworth Got Kicked Out Of The Governer Genrals Job And Why Bob Car Changed The Laws , And Why The premiers have left Their Jobs Nathan Rees Are You Going To continue What The Other Past leaders Of The State Of New South Wales have Done To Us victims And Continue The Cover UP Like The Past Premiers Have Done Posted by huffnpuff, Friday, 5 December 2008 10:01:56 AM
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Anyone That Can Help And draw Up The Documents For A High Court Fight get In Contact With Me at , michealjbrown@hotmail.com Im Real And A real Victim The Goverment defintly Does Not Want To Give Justice To You Imagine Sydney Harbour Bridge Been Blocked By All Us Victims And The Main City , The State Would Be In Melt Down For The Loss Of Income From Every Body They can Not lock Us All Up as They Do Not have The Facilities For 500,000 Thousand Victims Of Which They Would Abuse Us Again Anyway Kind Regrds Huffnpuff 5/12/2008 Posted by huffnpuff, Friday, 5 December 2008 10:03:41 AM
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huufnpuff/Michael
My heart bleeds for you. There was another similar case in Tasmania last week. I know they will use every trick in the book to block justice for battlers like you. They hide behind the Statute of Limitations knowing that a raped child might take decades to get their head around making a formal complaint. Only the rich can afford to play the legal game when the other side is playing real hard and dirty. I don't know the legal system well enough with its special jargon. So I'm not much help to you. Sorry. Could Legal Aid put you in touch with a NSW lawyer who is prepared to take you on under a no-win-no-fee basis? I know Angela Sdrinis of Ryan Carlysle and Vivian Waller (ex Maurice Blackburn) in Melbourne do this but I don't know anyone on Sydney who works that way. There must be someone. We all admire your courage Michael. Wish I could be of more help. Posted by Spikey, Friday, 5 December 2008 7:31:24 PM
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heya Micheal,
I think you have done a brave and couragous thing. I admire your efforts and hope you can continue. I think it is important we do not give up on ourselves, wretched as the situation may seem, your choices are the truipmhs as much as the result, it lets you breathe free ... good fortune michael Posted by robertbruce, Saturday, 6 December 2008 4:49:12 AM
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I would like to acknowledge the other forgotten, stolen and robbed australians in this group... many of you suffered much more than I did, your testimony affects me immensely, greatly, Ive cried for you...
like many of you i thought i came out ok but i didnt... i thought the redress would be a breeze, i was a vet after all...
the first time I opened the forde submission it blew me through a double brick wall ... I had opened the submission on the page that cites my brothers bashing by a house parent... i had just had my first serious flashback... since then it has been a warzone
i only discoveded my tag two days ago... i didnt know what i was untill then.....Im really behind on everything. Paul, my baby brother, was killed in state care. Its taken Vic 7 years to bury him and I took a little while to recover....
I am really here asking for help .. i need forum but i cant find any. I understand the special nature of the subject and I understand people's reluctance to speak and the delicacy of the subject but pretty soon, a lot of us, me maybe, wont be able too...we will be instead be having happy lives having forgotten everything like the redress requires...hmmmm
This is the only place i have found with any forum... does anyone know of more?
kind regards
robert