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Australia, do Nicole Kidmann and Hugh Jackson support Animal Cruelty and Live Animal Exports?

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And Steve Irwin is eulogised, when most of what he did was pretty exploitative of animals really (apart from a bit of good work with native wildlife rescue, but for which he made a lot of money).

If anyone has been held up as the biggest Australian "icon" since "Crocodile Dundee" (equally exploitative), he has, when in fact what he has done effectively is imprison lots of wild animals in a zoo, which also makes a lot of money. If what Graham says is correct the Irwins also exploit people - including their own children.

I agree about the airhead full of botox, but I think Jackman has demonstrated in many areas principles and character.

Is the question we should be asking "should animals (or the Aboriginal people, for that matter) be needlessly (operative word) exploited for the purposes of entertainment/ escapism? Should we extend that concept to other classes of people?"

Nicky
Posted by Nicky, Monday, 1 December 2008 12:45:17 PM
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We could extend it to everything and limit ourselves to animated penguins. Or is that still exploiting penguins?
Posted by chainsmoker, Monday, 1 December 2008 1:08:05 PM
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Examination.

Ok got you-. But you must accept I am not into PC. Just tell it the way it is.
Surprised that only Dickie picked up on the moral issue.
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If anything people seen as role models should set good examples.
Surprised that only Dickie picked up on the moral issue.

Fractelle.
It is counter productive to attack farmer’s IMO.

Good farmers are the backbone of Australia and are ‘still this countries future.

(A few words from the farmers.) =

Keep in mind that much of the land clearing in Australia was at the direction of the government, who threatened to void farmer's leases if they did NOT clear enough land to open it up for agriculture.
Posted by: John of Qld

Maybe a farmer should give his chainsaw a run in parliament. Get rid of some dead wood
Dave of Coolum
Democritus,
Sorry for delay in replying to-
* PALEIF

Your hit list is expanding.

Scientists, men, and now actors.

Who next, Hair dressers?
Posted by Democritus,

Hair dressers)=
Организационные вопросы
Jon Le Court for the past forty years always has enjoyed an outstanding reputation within the hairdressing industry for providing training to the highest ...

http://www.citynews.com.au/index.php/gallery/image_full/631/

Finally in October 1989 VRD was bought by Robert Holmes a' Court through his Heytesbury Pastoral Company. The Big Run has since enjoyed the most stable and profitable period in its 120-year history, entrenching its status as the king of cattle stations.

http://www.southaustralianhistory.com.au/vrd.htm

*Nevertheless, as the empire builders would tell us: "it's the economy stoopid" and several of our cattle barons hit Australia's rich list this year.*
Posted by dickie,


Hey Dickey you have a point. Funny they say there so is no money in farming.

Look at Packers Murdock and a few of the others.

Away a while everybody..

Enjoy
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Monday, 1 December 2008 10:50:06 PM
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PALE

MY point (which you have completely failed to grasp) was not to attack ALL farmers, but to emphasize that there are more important issues than a movie fantasy like sustainable farming practices which don't impact on natural environment. Geddit?

Like Veronika said, refraining "from being totally bonkers" would significantly increase your credibility.
Posted by Fractelle, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 8:43:23 AM
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omigod PALE,once again you have proven to me that you live in a bubble so far from the real world that I'm sure you must wear an oxygen mask!

Australia is a film, a movie, a fantasy depicting life in Australia decades ago. Its nothing more and nothing less. Its purpose is to entertain you, you are supposed to enjoy it, not walk out and think everyone in the world hates animals EVEN Nicole Kidman. For the sake of yourself and others around you let it go, your ranting and raving does nothing for your cause(especially when you mis -spell names). You have successfully alienated many people because of your irrational babbling.

You say that you have had Americans on your tinpot farm filming movies - what were the movies, "the attack of the killer tomatoes". Please fill us in on the details of the movies,Id love to see your organic farming practices or whatever it is you do in your bubble.

I laughed at the fact that you mentioned Murdochs and other wealthy Australian families who were on the rich list, Ill remind you now that these families did not earn their millions from farming. Their pastoralist ventures are usually tax havens and their fortunes have been made from many other sources.

So PALE, please enjoy the movie for what it is - a MOVIE.

I better go, Ive got some branding to do - I love the smell of sizzling cattle in the morning!
Posted by countryperson, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 9:33:41 AM
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Like Veronika said,
Posted by Fractelle, The only thing that is totally bonkers is your libber veggie approach that I have read time and time again
As Country person Said she likes her meat in the morning. We are NOT telling her not to eat meat like you lot.
We say to country girl we eat meat too! However we insist it has been treated humanly from paddock to plate.
If Nicole does that with her Ranch I wish her well. I just hope its not live exports.
Now I really must go!
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 10:11:18 AM
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