So it continues to be all about bitching because the other groups are doing their thing without PALE, strongly suggestive of the fact that PALE is simply in it for ego reasons and it has bugger all to do with animals. The others DO NOT WANT TO WORK WITH YOU, no doubt because of your abusive attitude, appalling communication style and aggression. They will succeed in doing this without you, make no mistake. After all, you have FAILED.

An "organisation" (since you still are not prepared to give an indication of membership which "works 24/7 without payment", I can only assume it is one person) which lives on past vendettas and has no plans or comprehensive strategies for the future and cannot broaden its scope belongs in the past and will remain there.

There is also the small matter of PALE sharing a directorship with a slaughtering operation, which, even if it never did get off the ground, implied that money would change hands to the benefit of PALE (speaking of corruption - no animal advocacy organisation would want to be directly profiteering from animal slaughter)

And something of a split personality emerges here. On one thread, you "do not mind the lady", on this one, you continue to discredit her. I have actually met Glenys briefly once, at the Animal Law Conference at UNSW which PALE typically did not bother to attend.

These people chose not to involve themselves with YOUR view of animal welfare, and they are certainly much better at it. They manage to cover a multiplicity of issues, not just failing at one. This is still a democratic country. For God's sake, GET OVER IT.

Nicky

Nicky
A stated on the other thread we will now respect the wishes of our lawyer members and not respond to you.
Glenys has at least tried to go back and mend her ways.IMO.
She has a fantastic partner in Lyn and we wish them all the best!
HOWEVER live exports WONT be stopped by lobbying the Government that it’s cruel.
It will be phased out ONLY by farmers and Muslims uniting and forming partnerships and reopening updating Halal Slaughter plants.
YES we know you oppose the meat industry and that’s why PALE is working to support other animal welfare organisations in a main stream view.

It’s kind of funny that you claim to have been at a law conference.
Look I am sorry if it offends BUT little in house lawyers and environmental lawyers WON’T get the job done.
What required here is a MAJOR federal court case. That’s something we already offered working with top heavy weight QCs and X Crime Commissioners.
We were stunned when informed your friend was terribly concerned someone else or another group might bring on such an action. BUT as I said the QCs required some background info which SHE Glenys declined to give.
Now if she wishes to deny the fact she was invited to meet the legal team prepared to bring about the case that is required let her come on OLO and debate ME.

I will remind her of the letter she wrote in response to that invitation and the fact she told us she NEVER cam to QLD

BUT was here 3 weeks later AND according to a AA member seeking advise as to whether or not such a case could be put to the courts.

PITY SHE DIDN’T ASK THE QCS at the time AH.

Too late now he`s a judge SO the Animals missed out again!!

Now to bring this to an end I am telling you we will NOT respond to you again
Eve

True to form, PALE's response to any challenge. Its legions of members, lawyers, Muslims and half the country emerge from PALE's little imagination, pack up their little bats and balls and run off whinging "we're not going to play ANY MORE".

If this is how you support other animal welfare organisations, then God help us all. PALE has done more to set animal welfare back in this country than any single individual or group.

I suspect that Glenys might have been trying to be considerate of your feelings in not meeting with you (can't understand why, even the most pointed advice goes nowhere with PALE). She obviously didn't want anything to do with PALE or anyone connected with it, just like everyone else, and for God's sake, you are like a broken record. GET OVER IT.

It was a pity you missed the UNSW Law Conference (July 2007); some of the best legal minds in the country were there, along with some of the best animal welfare campaigners. But you probably wouldn't have understood any of it, and would have made a fool of yourself as you do in these columns.

Now, I think it is time to end this totally fatuous thread, which proved beyond all reasonable doubt that PALE lives in a little world of its own making.

Nicky

oh for Goodness Sake. We actually support animals not clicky little groups
Considering the past comments made by you theres one thing for sure. You wouldnt know a good lawyer if he ran you over then offered to handle your case.