PAEDOPHILE PRIESTS... and the Left/arts community jumps up and down in chorus about how evil they are and how they must be punished.

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/

PAEDOPHILE ARTIST... and the arts community runs for cover and re-interpretation. Disgusting Hypocrisy in the extreme!

Paul Hetherington, who edited three of the four volumes of Friend’s diaries:

f his expression of himself he didn’t see himself limited by what we might see as conventional Judeo-Christian values. >>

err..YEAH...right!

I note that NON paedophile actities are linked with Judao Christian values....and that Friend strayed from them...and had sex with a boy of possibly nine, but definitely 12.

TOPIC. It is reported that Aldous Huxley in "Ends and Means" 1937 said:

http://www.update.uu.se/~fbendz/nogod/ah_quote.htm

<<"For myself, as, no doubt, for most of my contemporaries, the philosophy of meaningless was essentially an instrument of liberation. The liberation we desired was simultaneously liberation from a certain political and economic system and liberation from a certain system of morality. We objected to the morality because it interfered with our sexual freedom;>>

Now..HOW many people have been influenced by Huxley..and to what extent have his ideas AND motives filtered down through our education system?

Then suddenly, young people influence by this sick man emerge from schools thinking their atheism is original..... (choke, cough, choke)

Runner Ludwig just posted his point of view there's no need to attack him for it and call him pathetic.

Runner and Polycarp have a point. Serious misbehaviour of Christians could have the effect of compromising the appearance of integrity of the entire community but trotting out sexual abuse of youths in the Church is getting increasingly thin. A response based on the underrepresentation of the relevant abuse can be countered with the high expectations for people who undertake to teach moral values. However the effect disintegrates when there is double standards for that type of misbehaviour.

When the Pope vowed to sweep the filth from the Church (sexually abusing priests) his take on things was radically different from authorities within secular communities. They appear to be more likely to defend the behaviour of their offenders. There are good and bad in every group but recent events severely compromise any claim by atheists to have the monopoly on good community standards simply because they can cite examples of clerical abuse. In the circumstances citing bad Christians doesn't automatically prove some high moral ground.

It reminds me of a point made by an historian regarding clerical sexual abuse. The same liberal journalists who condemn priests for having sex with 16 year old boys praised a novel where a homosexual man "initiated" an 11 year old boy.

My view is that the issue of sexual abuse is one of many abuses that does not get anywhere near enough air time in the public domain. These people who want to run around in the shadows like the severely deluded pope and take care of matters in their own way do so in my view for purely selfish and self serving reasons.

One of the cons is that they refuse to accept that it is they themselves and their absurd rules regarding sexuality that in no insignificant manner forms the foundation stone of the abuse. They just want to make out that a systemic problem is one merely of a few renegades and these same people often as U, spin out to accusations against those of homo or bisexual persuasion.

And in the reason in my view that they argue "no jurisdiction" is simply because they fear exposure, no different from any other corrupt political organisation.

Incidentally, I am told that there is almost a mini city under the vatican, with level after level devoted to housing "treasures," from different ages of the world. Does anyone know if this is true? I cannot be certain as I was told this by a drunk.

Dream On,

I have a friend who, as a priest, worked in the Vatican for two years. I'd also heard the folk wisdom which credits this underground trove. My friend assurred me that, not only is this true, but that the amount of supressed literature, documents artifacts etc. which would prove things about the life of Jesus that the party line disputes, is also immense. Working with these documents is what caused not simply Jon's crisis of faith, but his leaving the priesthood.

I have no reason to think he is not telling the truth. But then again I have no proof that his account is the truth either.

Interesting.

" .. Power corrupts & absolute power corrupts absolutely .. "
" .. All who gain power are afraid to lose it .. "

Perhaps some of the others would like to express these sentiments thru the glasses of other disciplines.

But for faerie tales and fanciful allegory, let us consider for a moment that they at the Vatican like everyone else, also have opportunity to "climb the mountain" so to speak, and of course, must come to terms with our *Lord Satan*

Perhaps in the smashing of the ice of dogma, bigotry, blind faith, etc etc "we" will as a collective be able to assist in their redemption, for as none of us are perfect, we all at time need assistance in humbling ourselves do we not?

I have heard the view expressed that all of the world's religions have something unique to contribute towards our concept of El Goddo and in the instance of the Catholics, that they retain something of the "Mysteries" in their Rituals.

I would prefer to see non lethal weaponry deployed by those willing to sacrifice sooner than shed blood, as opposed to those with the pig stickers.

Around the time of the Blood Red Moon as seen from Perth in '97, I wondered what was behind the alleged suicide?