Dream On,

“My view is …”

Agreed. If it doesn’t relate to a pastor / can’t make Christianity look bad media don’t normally report it. See relevant albeit American article excerpted below. I excerpt below as it is only accessible to subscribers online:

Looking for sin in all the wrong places

by James O. Clifford Sr. retired award winning reporter and editor.

"... the mass media and its dropping the ball on national coverage of another sex scandal: sex cases and cover-ups involving public school teachers. There's a scandal within a scandal here because the media appear to have engaged in their own cover-up.

...The Merc story didn't bother me. The Church authorities, I felt, deserved what they were getting. Can't blame the messenger, I told myself. The shock came not long after, when an educational organization held its convention in San Francisco. One of the topics on the group's agenda was sex cases involving public school teachers and the possible legal ramifications...

Teachers, who have charge of children, seem to have escaped unscathed in the media. The profession had this apparent immunity despite the fact that we all have to pay taxes for public schools. (No one is forced to support a Church.)

When the priest scandal took off like a rocket, I expected the teacher troubles to follow the same path. After all, school dealings are usually a matter of public record and open to press scrutiny. What I saw was a double standard growing and growing....

Oh, yes, there would be the occasional well-covered titillation story about a woman teacher having an "affair" with a student...

CONT.

I witnessed this while at the AP and kept my mouth shut. At my age and a retread, I was lucky to have a job. Now I am free to speak. If you want, do your own search on the Net. As far back as December 1998, Education Week was reporting on "Passing the Trash," recounting how school districts freed sexual predators "to hunt again." Education World followed a year later...

I hope I have connected dots so well that some reporter will run with this and win a Pulitzer. Why not? The Globe did when the dots were priests”

The above article highlights that cases of priests sexually abusing young people get the lion's share of media attention as if it is the main source of the problem. However, in just one Australian state there was 6486 child molestation charges between July 2005 and June 2007 but in a country with the population of the US of A, using an extremely broad definition of sexual abuse, there are only 4,392 allegations of abuse by priests of people up to age 18 between 1950-2002.

As regards:

“...they refuse to accept that it is they themselves and their absurd rules regarding sexuality that in no insignificant manner forms the foundation stone of the abuse.”

Dream on Dream On agreeing not to have sex doesn’t affect your sexual orientation. Do you get a strange attraction to male youths if you go without for a while? Why would they?

“They just want to make out that a systemic problem”

I’m not clear on what you mean by systemic. Are you implying that all clergy are molestors or something else?

“…is one merely of a few renegades and these same people often as U, spin out to accusations against those of homo or bisexual persuasion.”

I was referring to priests of homosexual persuasion who molested youths and gave the Church a bad name. Yes they were proportionally few. What do you mean spin? The problem was molestation and breaking vows and trust. The coincidental orientation doesn’t affect people who don’t molest.

I think we invoke retrospective powers, get the cameras live and online in the court rooms and then cross examine you slime before the people of the world, and find out all the facts, including who made what decisions when on the basis of knowing what.

As for sexuality, if left a lonely boy for too long, I bar up like a mallee bull and think about breaking out the velcro gloves and gaffer tape, taping up a lamb and ...

I know, how about an after hours prayer session?
And then, we'll blame the *Devil*

Though, I personally think that's bearing false witness mySelf.
How about U?

"You need a lot more than a fertile imagination to die for something you KNOW is not true"

The early disciples KNEW that Jesus rose from the dead...and if they knew otherwise... it is psychologically inconceivable that they would die for their faith. J.W. Montgomery a human rights lawyer says "It is utterly absurd"
Posted by Polycarp, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 10:56:12 AM

Porky and how do YOU know that is true?

Isn’t that what the Terrorists say just before they bomb and kill people- that they KNOW they will go to heaven and have plenty drink and many virgins.

Seriously I am not anti Christ just anti most organised religion and Church Leaders.



YOU like many others sit back and do NOTHING about the cruelty- then you dare come in here and preach to us on your higher moral ground- 'you think.'

Well here’s news ‘we are doing the lords work while awaiting all the hypocrites going to hell.

Their SILENCE and refusal to speak up about Live Exports and intensive farming + all cruelty matters is deafening.

the topic is relitive but i thought long resolved
[what sort of imagination could ever concieve this creation]
athiest and thiests got imagination[we collectivly cant imagine more than god[but is that open to interpration or oppinion]

anyhow live export is wrong
but is it wose than child molestation[or aids]

like i just read this disturbing to vegetarians not vegans apparently]
or is it those who think to eat only organic [whatever that is]as far as i can tell no artificial fruit/veg/beast [ie a macvhine made as opposed to produces from a living thing]

anyhow here is the link [the main reason for posting]
http://www.infowars.com/?p=6354

it takes no imagination to see where they are going with this selling angle[branding]maybe that will help your campain[we could brand the meat of the exports that way people who eat meat know its not that bad meat [from exports]

any death blashemes god
killing ANYTHING is murder

yes giving catle an ocean voyage prior to murdering it is cruel, but this is life [we suffer till we die]my objection is that not every beast gets abused

[a lot depends on how marketable the 'meat' is [stressed animals get tough to eat meat[so anyone ruining the quality control [by abusing the meat ruins the meat] so the process of shipping is as stress free as they can logiclly do it

the real problem is why beast's still need to be murdered just so i can eat meat[sausages arnt meat] im a big meat eater [but all meat was murdered] its guilt i have imaginativly controlled [knowing my own 'guilt']i cant blame others for what they need tyo do to get it

anyhow all this blabber was only to post the link, cause i thought you posted the topic ,but it wernt part of the topic only incidental

i dont want my response or the link to become the off topic troll; just to post the link to the live export person[and let off some un imaginative steam]

"You need a lot more than a fertile imagination to die for something you KNOW is not true"

The early disciples KNEW that Jesus rose from the dead...and if they knew otherwise... it is psychologically inconceivable that they would die for their faith. J.W. Montgomery a human rights lawyer says "It is utterly absurd"
Posted by Polycarp, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 10:56:12 AM

"Porky and how do YOU know that is true?

Isn’t that what the Terrorists say just before they bomb and kill people- that they KNOW they will go to heaven and have plenty drink and many virgins."

But we aren't talking about religious zealots who die for the faith they have been taught and the hypothetical implications are we? The disciples didn't just behave like zealous terrorists. They knew Jesus died on the cross. After Jesus died on the cross they were a bunch of cowards who had thrown in the towel because the one they believed to be God on earth got killed as a criminal. Then they changed to a bunch of people who were prepared to die for their faith. They reckon it was because Jesus met with them and showed them the holes from the crucifiction and they knew He was fair dinkum because He rose from the dead. What is your explanation for their transformation?

"Seriously I am not anti Christ just anti most organised religion and Church Leaders."

Is there any organised religion or Church leaders that you aren't anti?