DN8R
the point i wished to make is the theory
is only a theory
via lack of a rebuttal
[validating it] ,any opinion is equal]

i favour the big bounce theory

i can visualised an expanding universe
as we get ever more divided
[each of the uncountable trillions of realms draw further appart]

validations i have had are the expanding earth theory
[it seems natural the contents expand as the universe does]

these of course are only theories as well

but if the theory is valid
then the spiritual would verify it

and indeed it has
spiritual writings [channeled] from the after life
confirm the expansion[ie confirm big bang]
[and SPI-RITUAL evolution]

BY visualising it spiritually
see the spirits evolving
thus taking suitable form

like bankers are blood suckkers

as long as they love sucking us dry
their next incarnation must be in the blood suckkers
[just to satisfy their need]

human bruts return as carnivors

the bible even reports satan as a serphant [re?] incarnated
ie sewn into the skin of a snake

just as adam/eve were 'sewn into skins [of mankind]

there was even a king turned into a beast of the field
[for 8? years]
about the life expectancy of a 'blemished'
[as opposed to unblemmished beast]

yet by observing even the most vile of living
god gave each their life choice.

i will never say that our life giver isnt LOVE

cause for me i would not give the life sukkkers a second bite

good thing im not god [eh]

UOG, leave that to him,

keep your face to the light and your back against the dark...

a dios

yeah
the bounce,
perpetual motion

ancient writings speak of cycles within cycles,

interesting how the more sci learns, the closer they get to all that

...many paths...

-

.good.challenge.

not what it seemed at 1st

Under one dog AKA DB8R

Talking to yourself?

Tried Prozac?

SM, Not that UOG needs my defense,
but you help me illustrate my point being here

-

What do you mean we are the same person?

Using the evidence you have available... only; prove it
or- prove I'm someone else

You have a belief I am UOG, prove it.
Insufficient evidence?

I have a rational belief that I am not UOG,
and - wearing my rationalist/materialist hat,
I *can* prove that, [in court for example. as per Intelligent Design v's Sci.Evolution]

>but, if I put my spiritualist hat on...
I may believe I *am* the same person,
in that domain, we *all* are... [unity of consciousness]

>or- sci./philosopher; at the basis of all is energy...
so, we are all part of one energy mass called universe
etc.

belief, point of view, discourse, speculation

I may not agree with UOG in one domain,
but I can see some similarity in others...

probing the nature of belief - you call it delusion?
that's your belief, based on sicence, subject to change,
as the evidence comes in... e.g. big bang - big bounce

cheers

It's an open forum, but a little respect goes a long way.

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Causality (disambiguation)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Causality" may refer to:
...

* Philosophy
o Causality <<-
o Causal determinism
o Causal relationships
o Causal theory of reference
o Causalism
o Fallacy of the single cause <<-

* Science
o Causality (physics). <<-
o Causal dynamical triangulation
o Causal filter
o Causal perturbation theory
o Causal system
o Causality loop

* Other
o Causal loop diagram, infographics concept.
o Causal realm, in mysticism. <<-
o Cause and Effect (TNG episode). <<- [a favourite:-] it is speculation after all

>> and just taking a subset of philosophy; >>

Philosophy:

* Aetiology
* Chicken or the egg <<[just ask the first chicken;-]
* Determinism
* Efficient cause
* Final cause (teleology)
* Free will
* Material cause
* Mill's Methods
* Newcomb's paradox
* Ontological paradox
* Post hoc ergo propter hoc
* Predestination paradox
* Proximate and ultimate causation

yeah i know
just wanted it noted
thanks again

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To: <johanhendrick@ozemail.com.au>
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 11:23 AM
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> Turn the other cheek I think.
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> Complaint:
> i am not the accused
> [i forget the name ...db8f?]
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> to respond to the troll would only invite further response
>
> i do not need validation that much that i would create an other id
> the comment as is usual is offensive to me
>
> [and i presume the poster mentioned]
>
> but as in law
> failing to respond 'looks like' guilt
>
> thus i respond to you for a remedy
>
> i have ONLY one id at olo