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FOI USED TO ASSIST IN COVER UPS

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Thank you Country Girl. I have thought of the criminal aspect. I have previously put the matter before the Police and they did nothing. They said that 'this type of matter' is dealt with by the Ombudsman and to refer the matter to the Ombudsman. It mattered not to them that the Ombudsman had denied my family procedural fairness and natural justice. There is not point in writing again. My name has been marred.

The process of complaint handling puts up firewall after firewall until enough time goes past that you are out of time to lodge any more complaints and so that the system can justify ignoring you.

They have their basis covered.

They cry lack of funding and resources when really it is culpable neglect and psychological abuse of the people.
Posted by Jolanda, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 8:27:48 PM
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Jolanda there is something wrong with DET using the public interest argument to deny you documents. They can only use it to decide whether to waive fees or not but a decision not to release documents on this basis is flawed from my understanding.

I would take this to the Ombudsman despite your previous attempts because it is very much in the Ombudsman's jurisdiction to investigatge FOI matters.

There is a case for public interest here in any case given that these sorts of activities by DET have the potential to affect other families and other children.
Posted by pelican, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 9:05:00 AM
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Hi Pelican, not only do these sorts of issues have the potential to affect other children and families I know of two families (two kids that were friends with my children) who were targeted by the same person in the same manner. They complained, one went all the way to the Minister with the complaint but nothing was done. They got to the point where they were scared to say anything more in case more damage/harm was inflicted on their child as they had already been through enough. The DET has so much power. For both these families it was only one child impacted, my family have had 4.

The public interest angle was changed somewhat at the hearing on Tuesday 25. They didn't use one of the Affidavits that presented what I presented and only relied on another that still used the public interest angle but in the manner that if they released internal audit reports in relation to Government Departments (in this case the SSU) that it would not be in the public interest as public servants wouldn't be frank and open if they thought the reports were going to make public. I couldn't help but remind htem that public servants were bound by a code of conduct that said that they would tell the truth. How can keeping an audit secret be beneficial to the public, surely the only person who would benefit are those being audited and who have done wrong?

Anyway judgment was reserved. The Ombudsman is a waste of time. It was interesting however to learn that the Audit Directorate of the DET who were implicated in the cover up of my families allegations against the SSU then conducted an audit into that exact unit in relation to those processes complained about. They have all the bases covered to ensure that they are never held to account.
Posted by Jolanda, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 3:47:48 PM
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After giving u the benefit of the doubt I start to see why a lot of other members just shout at U.

U come here asking for help, but u don't take "advice" and carry on as if u know all the answers.

Yr comments about the tribunals are nonsense. U don't know what u r talking about it. U simply rave and rant endlessly because they do not agree with u.

I think that the person who has done and is still doing most harm to yr children is u, of yr own admission.

I'm not an expert in the area, but I suspect yr obsessive behavior based on paranoid delusions are probably pretty close to earning u a needle in the bum from the white coats brigade.

Why don't u try shutting yr mouth for a change and instead of just gibbering like a fool, put up the important docs and let people with more than half a brain have a look for u.
Posted by DreamOn, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 7:18:00 PM
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Dream on if you had half a brain you wouldn't write what you do.
Posted by Jolanda, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 8:32:40 PM
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