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FOI USED TO ASSIST IN COVER UPS

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HI Dream On. I do have plans to do what you say.

Although it doesn't really make a difference. People think that it is the way that I have presented things that made the DET react the way that they have but that isn't true. I didn't even draft my own letters at first because I was too upset. I have always been very understanding and I have never set out to make enemies. That some people have come on my blog and even on this site to bait me is something that I am used to and I no longer care. For all we know they could be direct from the DET.

I just dont think that people telling me to let it go when I am telling them that these adults are bullying and victimsiing my children year after year is of any help to me as essentially they are asking me to neglect my children.

The thing that people do not realise is that once you are targeted you are targeted, bullied and harrassed time and time again so that you have to keep focusing on other things and so that your matter get so big that you present distressed and with a story to tell that people find hard to believe.

Thanks for giving me some guidance. I will get on to it but I have so many other issues to deal with at the ADT at the moment that I really haven't got the time. But what you say is how my blog will eventually present. I cannot change who I am and how I speak. All I can do is try my best.

I have realised that we have laws that only protect the criminal. I know that I will struggle to hold these people to account mainly because the general public really do not care much about the children but I will continue to fight because I want something better for our kids. I want a society where those who are neglecting, bullying and abusing children are held to account.
Posted by Jolanda, Thursday, 20 November 2008 7:41:27 PM
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Jolanda,

without making any comment right now as to your [non] case, can we step back a bit and:

1. tell us why IYHO YOUR kids were subject to "certain abuses" [esoteric or not], while others were seemingly not?

2. DETAIL [in say 10 words] where/how these matters happened, eg in History exam 2004 my kid said Capt Cook was gay but examiner did not agree and marked my kid down becuse IMHO xaminer was too politically correct/black armband/up Howard's ars*

get the picture? - you must get specific or the footy game never starts

to win in court [apart from what I said hereabove] you must have/be a "vehicle"

seems you are not claiming any abuse of a statute [and I don't think there ARE any "teaching statutes"], but are on about good old "Common Law Tort"

in which case you better get onto austlii and research Common Law on "school type things" in the High Court of Australia
Posted by Divorce Doctor, Thursday, 20 November 2008 8:09:52 PM
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Noble aspirations, but I wld suggest with respect that u risk emparting "victim syndrome" if u can't keep yrSelf emotionally stable.

If u push too hard too long, u will only compromise yr only health and consequently yr ability to care for yr kids.

Insight & Blindness.

One of the great philosophers said those who spend too much timing staring at monsters are at risk of becoming one.

Be content in yr Heart that u care for kids and then just gently, slowly chip away at it in a balanced methodical manner.

All things come to an end and the truth always has a way of coming out eventually. History attests to this.

It'll come down to this. Did they wrongly withhold info from u or not? If they did, then yr focus needs to be on bringing that to the correct judicial review body. If they inappropriately destroyed evidence then again, don't waste yr time talking to them or telling others what u think of them, focus on bringing it to the attention of the relevant authority.

In everything I've seen so far, yr focus is not on the ball. Let's have a look at the initial FOI app and then very quickly we will be able to make an informed comment.

Sometimes it is a matter of ignorance or negligence as opposed to "evil" and thereafter a persons fear of losing their financial security solution.

Once u get to the higher jurisdictions, things that appear complex are rapidly made plain.

And even now if it comes to it, and there is a finding that yr kids actually scored higher, is that now going to help them get their choice of uni courses, or has all yr energy fighting against the wrong target being wasted relative to what u cld have achieved had u invested those energies into tutoring yr kids say, for example?

I thought that u had said that there was already a determination made by the ADT. If not, put that up to and we can have a look at that.
Posted by DreamOn, Thursday, 20 November 2008 8:15:12 PM
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Two of my children have just finished their HSC. They are seriously concerned about their marks because there is a history of external tampering of their test scores and results. As it gets closer they really stress and it impacts on their health and wellbeing. They have reason to be scared.

Divorce Doctor. The kids were not marked down in the way that you say. Documents produced under FOI show that he Leader of the Selective Schools unit went in after the selection Committee met in the year 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006 & 2007 and actively changed my children’s selective school applications and results.

These ‘changes’ resulted in my children missing out on places in Selective Schools. This was a big issue for my children as they were identified obvious intellectually gifted children who were struggling to cope in the comprehensive school system.

I had brought the issue up about the neglect of the educational needs of gifted children and advised how this was impacting on my children emotionally as well as educationally. For complaining my children are paying the price.

What also drives me is that I feel that this administrative process that they are using on my families case would have been used to protect Government employees who worked in institutions and terrorized and abused kids.

I can imagine a mother of a child who is being physically or emotionally abused in a Government run institution/department/arrangement being unable to find a way to protect her children from further harm.

I can’t help but feel for the children. This is a huge failure in child protection and this process needs to change.
Posted by Jolanda, Thursday, 20 November 2008 9:49:51 PM
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what would be the motive for changing marks?

I can only think of bribery, and yes that is rife in most gummt depts [and court systems]

were you supposed to cross certain palms with silver

I remember this even at Knox Grammar where a very rich dad had his kid [a dud] substituted for my kid [who was star of the team] in the prep school soccer team
Posted by Divorce Doctor, Friday, 21 November 2008 11:29:13 AM
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Divorce doctor it wasn't for money. Of course maybe somebody paid somebody. It was just to discredit me. I was making public complaints about the neglect of the education of gifted children. What better way to discredit a parent making complaints about her children's education as gifted children than to make the kids miss out on Opportunity Class and Selective School placement. The Selective School test was presented as being designed to identify gifted children so if the kids do not get in then they present as not gifted or not as gifted as the parent thinks that they are.......

It was all designed to discredit and defame me as a parent, and it is easy to do as many people have an attitude towards these issues and parents of gifted children.
Posted by Jolanda, Friday, 21 November 2008 12:25:37 PM
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