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Richie 10 wrote:

Could someone explain to me how the crown became the state and was money exchanged or did the state just cancel the crown title .

Dear Richie 10,

Synecdoche is a figure of speech in which the part stands for the whole. Thus the 'bench' is not only what the judge sits on, but a word that also means our entire court system. In the prayer 'Give us this day our daily bread' bread represents all the food we eat. Since Australia is not a republic and the crown is the synecdoche for the government of the UK it is also the synecdoche for Australia.
Posted by david f, Thursday, 20 November 2008 1:01:03 PM
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Aaah.. ok Pericles I see the question now.

Intersting point. I suppose that at that time, given the colonial situation such grants form part of our historical tradition.

It seems to me that the allocation of land in your example is more a 'caviat' on land granted to a title. "No trees shall be cut down"...that kind of thing.

The land is granted to them..and their heirs forever.. with a purpose of it being used for Church of England purposes.

In that example, you can easily see what a bad precedent it is.

In my stance of opposition to such things, it does not mean it has never happened. At the time...1924..I doubt anyone would have questioned it as the Church and State were very close.

It would not bother me spiritually if the land was removed from perpetual trusteeship of the Anglican Church, though I'd feel a degree of sadness for the cultural pock mark it would make.

There is anothe aspect. I seriously doubt that it's status as a 'Church of England' use, would excluse non CofE people from visiting it.

My primary contention about the Mosque idea is that of it being discriminatory. But as a secondary point, I still feel that State land should not be used for private religious buildings.
Keep Church property and State property..separate.
Posted by Polycarp, Thursday, 20 November 2008 1:13:01 PM
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" ... they are not nursery's of seditious ideas ... "

mmm .. SeditioN .. that's beautiful *bOAZy*
HaHaHa

I do find U often highly entertaining.
;-)

Why not take all the land back off them then and then re-distribute to all the different recognised denominations in Oz with an ongoing process of secular review?

Islam, like the footy & cricket stadiums are a great tool of pacification. U musn't in my view deny people to commune with their GoddO concept, or lack thereof for that matter as that is a sure prescription for social unrest and seriously pernicious.

I expect the likes of the red chinese will get theirs sooner or later because of this.

As for the so-called churches collusion with the crown in the forcible transference of children from one group to another in the instance of
"The Stolen Generation" and arguable breach of the
Genocide Convention Act,
legally speaking, off with their heads.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24675606-29277,00.html?from=public_rss
Posted by DreamOn, Thursday, 20 November 2008 7:41:07 PM
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