I read on a website today that the Holy Bible sells between 30 and 100 million copies every year.

Thats power, REAL power:)

People,

Let us look at the words of the slogan. ‘Atheism – because there is no credible evidence’

This is an opinion sourced from present knowledge and is the basis of being an Atheist. Is our society so timid as to be afraid of a prompt to think about long held traditions in contradiction to that statement?

Atheists have to put with the opposite opinion on a continual basis. In Australia, from Christian prayers in parliament, to huge edifices in every suburb, to grants and tax breaks not afforded ordinary people, to laws not introduced and the threat to those already in place, to state schools with chaplains, to threats to science and groups not acceptable to religion etc.

On the world scene, we have a president of the USA convinced a god told him that war on Iraq is the way to go and an opposing president in Iran with an opposite view. Both these people are juggling the Middle East with Israel as the prize. All three nations either have or wish to have nuclear weapons as do the religious hotbeds of Pakistan and India.

An Atheist comes up and says, “Hey guys, this very real threat to people and planet could all because of overactive imaginations and religious indoctrination”.

Can you see the discrepancy here? To Atheists the problem is obvious and the compunction to say so necessary.

Look at the slogan. Is it that frightening, irrational or so far off the mark that it should be condemned outright when it contains not one word of hate or threat to use or cause violence.

I think not…No, I know not.

David

David Nichols! Bad move! The same reasons why other organizations are classed as fundamentalists, too become one of these groups will put a twisting correlation with the rest. Atheists are non believers in Deity etc, and I do agree we are the balanced one,s without a doubt.

No groups, just single voices. Then we cant be pointed out as a new force or be singled out and over ruled by apposing stupidities.

Let the world speak with the one drop in the ocean concept, with will, see and here what the people want and numbers will grow just by speaking the truth!

I believe in calling a spade a spade and the world is starting to grow up. When leaders start talking to gods for advice, this is a sign of sick planet and out of date practise,s. Religion causes WAR! Do make us a part of this!

We are friendly with the thoughts of the planets welfare in mind and always remember, the meek shall inherit the earth.

If you advertise you join the rest.

For the same reasons I wont put money in collection plates, I think you see my point.

EVO

Do not make us a part of this! I ment to say. Sorry about that.

EVO

rw523252,

I am an atheist and I do believe that creationism is emotional desperation at best and cynical nonsense at worst. But, that is where we intellectually part.
You can't logically prove a negative something categorically doesn't exist. At best all you can do is argue by inference. You can only say is that based on current lack of supporting facts god doesn't appear to exist as a supernatural entity; however given that everything is not yet known the debate is still valid.

In the absence of absolute definitive proof at either end of the spectrum logic dictates that the answer may lie somewhere in the middle. Therefore zealotic “God busting” is as unsustantiatable and as offensive as the opposite.
Neither can you sensibly argue that the absence of one guarantees the other.

Based on your reasoning in your post you have simply replaced one biased set of unprovable absolutes with another.

I have several of Dawkins books and can see his logic but he tends to confuse his version of ‘facts’ (many of which are tendentious) with a right to impose it on others.

He does have a right to disprove “creationism” aka “intelligent (sic) design” as science and a valid alternative to evolution. The tests are there. The flaw in his world view is that he assumes the whole is the sum of the parts on faith he can’t show the link between genes and thought…no one can.
Likewise is this flaw applies to human need…which to many includes a concept of order (or if you like God). Is love any less real because you can’t bottle it etc?
Experience has taught me that each to their own is the best interim stance

Might I humbly suggest you alter your stance from the absolute to cover your own beliefs?

Examinator. Well said. The growth of human-beings will be a slow one, and so it should be.

EVO