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Atheist Foundation launches bus advert fund

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I don't hate Zeus or Ra
Posted by Oliver, Monday, 3 November 2008 3:11:51 PM
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I remain unconvinced, Mr Nicholls.

>>Placing signs on buses is a very cost effective way to put out a message<<

If I were selling advertising space, this is exactly what I would tell you. But if the message is lame, how cost-effective does that make the programme as a whole?

And what about that message? Is it simply to make atheists feel somehow better about themselves, that they are "not alone"?

Oh, please.

How patronizing.

We are told that...

>>the London experience... has achieved its goal already of raising the consciousness of the community<<

Oswald Mosley raised the consciousness of a whole lot of people in the thirties. Did that make his message somehow meaningful? Or are you one of those people who believes "any publicity is good publicity"?

Anyhow, I thought that the Australian objective is "for Atheists to visibly express their thoughts"?

Flabby thinking.

Once again I have to ask, what is the point of all this, except to put money into the welcoming grasp of adland?

>>The armchair reaction to the intended bus slogans is understandable, expected and frankly, dismissed as irrelevant.<<

'Fraid you lost me, right there.

No organization that treats its intended constituency as irrelevant, and in such a condescending manner, deserves to succeed, whatever its mission.

Goodbye.
Posted by Pericles, Monday, 3 November 2008 3:53:08 PM
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Well.. good to see CJ and PERICLES exercising some clarity of thought here.

I'm a bit bemused also.. "Atheism"....because...

huh?

What does atheism give? it seems that it takes away rather than give anything..

The whole message is destructive and negative.. offering nothing positive.

Even "Jesus Saves" is positive.. it offers salvation.

If I was going to think up a slogan to promote Atheism I think I'd go for something like "Be Liberated..choose Atheism"

OR.."Total moral freedom.. choose Atheism"

"Atheism-escape the moral prison of religion"

Not that this is true, but it seems to be an accepted atheist belief about religion.

But... 'lack of belief' being the core issue? well..can't say my foundations are shaken by this.

The slogan is also unreasonable, as it suggests that there is no credible evidence. But this is a matter of dispute and debate.. particularly concerning the resurrection of Christ.

Why not 'Agnosticism' rather than atheism, as Atheism suggest that all the possibilities have been 100% exhaustively explored ..and this is simply not true.

Let Him who died for us, rose on the 3rd day.. who is coming with the glory of His angels... be the final arbiter.
Amen and Amen.
Posted by Polycarp, Monday, 3 November 2008 4:22:41 PM
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Polycarp wrote: The slogan is also unreasonable, as it suggests that there is no credible evidence. But this is a matter of dispute and debate.. particularly concerning the resurrection of Christ.

Nonsense is not a matter of dispute and debate. It remains nonsense.

From too much love of living,
From hope and fear set free,
We thank with brief thanksgiving
Whatever gods may be
That no life lives forever;
That dead men rise up never;
That even the weariest river
Winds somewhere safe to sea

Better the poetry of Swinburne then biblical fairy tales.
Posted by david f, Monday, 3 November 2008 4:43:24 PM
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This leaves a REAL bad taste in my mouth.
Posted by StG, Monday, 3 November 2008 5:16:59 PM
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'spose I better add...

"The armchair reaction to the intended bus slogans is understandable, expected and frankly, dismissed as irrelevant.

David Nicholls"

You're just a stirrer. I still don't get why someone who fundamental opposes a concept actually goes out and dedicates a significant part of their existence on that concept (don't try, please). Your slogan is obviously intended to create something as ugly as you.

Be an Atheist, more power to ya, but stop going 'LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME'. You're embarrassing yourself. You come across as child with a grudge.

Thankfully the ONLY place I've heard of AFoA is here, on OLO...

I'd be just as sympathetically offended for Muslims if you targeted them specifically. Funnily enough I believe you'll never actually pick a specific target, especially Islam (although, Christianity is your easy target). That's vilification, and is a crime. I'll be surprised to see a sign like that here in Qld. I'll complain myself if I do.
Posted by StG, Monday, 3 November 2008 5:42:14 PM
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