My observations on creation are very basic and creation wins every time . Creation Says everything reproduces after its own kind and everything I have witnessed in my lifetime reanforces that . Evolution says after the passing of much time superior organisms evolve eg chemical slime to man . I only have 1 life time and I am not going to waste it wondering what sort of decendants I will have in 1 million years if evoluthion is true.Religion is belief systems and evolution is part of the hindu religion . People don't object to religion with its rules and regulations but they object very strongly to relationship with Jesus .

Well, well ,well! I may have to "brake" it down in secondary simplistics. Graham! its a lovely little community with such a strong heartiness, with the most deterimed in-sights to what the causes are for human existence.

Without fuel for fire, there is no cause! and the in-sights for mankind will stop. ( check mate ) this is not good. Baby boots, is still the picture for common moral.

I have no hate for anyone here. Runner gibo David, are more than welcome here, and I think they have their right to think what they will.

Until the human race has found the truth, the debate must go on! No words will change anyone, just like the 1920,s: (its just another day in history, and nothing more), and correlation of thinking will slowly bring about the unity of the human species.

This is a work station! and if we meet in the streets, the best of us will reach-out with the best of common humanity. To be too serious without hard evidence is reckless! we all might be wrong. Lets proceded forward with the... of our thoughts, or the definition of debate will become moot!
I believe, if you put something here that is far out! you must take the consequences, and learn from it.
I have been shot-down many times, and people have been tolerant when i have pushed them to the edge, or have said something stupid.
There is no right or wrong, and many don't realize, we are all making history at this very moment.
There is not much point of debating with closed minds. (I believe there are indigenous humanoid species to the earth and something far more out-side our realm's of rational thinking. Evolution+god equals something else that is helping us.) This is just example of pondering, and this is why we are here! to find the truth.

Have Passions, but don't take it to heart.

I don't give a.... what you believe in, but I respect you.

EV

I agree with chainsmoker

"...The proposed article asks for evidence, but we already know any evidence would be buried in a slanging match..."

I'd add that any 'evidence' that would be put up by the creationists has already been discredited and refuted by scientific fact, but that won't stop the bible thumpers from quoting their faith based belief.

Evidence vs faith, do you see the problem? There can't be many replies to this question (or is it the same old religion argument disguised as a question), because there is no evidence, only faith.

*Creation Says everything reproduces after its own kind and everything I have witnessed in my lifetime reanforces that *

Graham, after reading that comment, I can only conclude that you
should let them have their say. There have been worse threads in
the General section :).

What the Richies, Gibos and runners will have to prove, is that
dna does not mutate. As we know, dna codes for genes and genes
is what species are all about.

Clearly none of them is involved in agriculture, where the problems
of dna mutation exist every day and are faced by those in the
industry.

The pesticide industry develops new herbicides, insecticides etc
and hundred of billions of specimens are destroyed. Along comes
one mutation and we are back to square one.Evolution in action!

Clearly this it not so, according to the religious, so let them
have their say.

If nothing else this thread proves the proposed thread would be interesting if untidy.
We do debate religion here often in threads not intended to take that turn.
Some who have posted seem to miss the question asked here but mostly we stayed on track.
No one can answer it for you Graham in the end you must run with your own thoughts.

Well well well....

UNDIDLY puts his foot in it. Kaaaaa-SPLOOOSH... yuk... *wipes of dirty substance from shoes*

"Please don't allow religion on this forum.
It is just emotional nonsense,nothing useful comes of it.
Why doesn't god tell us how to fix global warming?."

DIDLY.. God DID tell us how to fix it. II Chronicles 7:14

"If my people
who are called by my name
will HUMBLE themselves.... and pray..and... seek my face..

THEN... will I hear from heaven and heal their land"

It is humility which counteracts the rapacious greed which is driving Global Warming.

Pericles says it's all about faith.. indeed it is.. but it's not lack of evidence one way or the other.. it is that the EVIDENCE which is there, is interpreted by FAITH by scientists of both the atheistic and believing kind.