You jokers raise prevarication to an art form.

Porky, you said originally

<< we are in Afghanistan because of it being used as a haven for terrorist training camps which were used against us on our own soil >>

Now you say

<< "used against us" could mean many things. Planning, conspiring.. overt actions.. all come under the heading of 'used against us'.
Even passing on of critical information to others more willing to carry out such attacks is 'used against us'. >>

Even if we very generously allow for the slim possibility that you meant one of this things, you conveniently ignore the fact that you claimed that this is the reason that "we are in Afghanistan". You clearly meant that Australian troops were sent to Afghanistan because of prior terrorist activities "on our own soil" that originated there.

That you prevaricate now, rather than explain yourself when originally challenged, only reinforces the lie. I believe that is known as "bearing false witness" in Christian circles.

Speaking of which, Philo is inclined to some prevarication of his own - to claim that something is illegal just because it violates his personal "law of social decency and responsibility to children" is pure bulldust. Philo leapt into the witch hunt by claiming that Henson had acted "illegally", which is plainly untrue in the usual sense of the word. To claim that he really meant the contravention of his idiosyncratic moral code (or to claim that his personal morality is "law" for everybody else) is to perpetuate the lie in much the same way that Porky does.

What is it with you fundies - why would you expect anybody to believe you when you appear incapable of telling the truth?

Bill Henson has a great reputation of being a trustworthy, respectable and very talented, disciplined artist and in a way I am glad that he hasn’t been put off by the past bullying of the media et al.
He has produced so many beautiful photographs of children, used dramatic splashes of light and deep shadows, appropriately draped over yet to develop bodies. He never has exploited any child or hidden his motives. There is no record of abuse, his record is as clean and his attention as focused as his camera lens.

The children he uses for his art seem to come from families that have an interest in art and appreciate and understand art, and who don’t think that there are sexual overtones in Henson’s work.

Looking at Henson's record, it’s unlikely that his artistic mind would have turned to pulp as soon as he set foot into the school.
I wonder if only filthy minds find dirty motives behind every piece of nudity or semi nudity they come across; if only filthy minds find gloomy nooks in shadings and shadows no matter how tastefully presented.

The media has a reputation of dramatising, exaggerating, scare-mongering, blowing things out of proportion and deceiving at times.

Now whom would I rather believe about Henson’s motives and purity of mind, the media or Henson and his models?

Anyway, this probably will be the last thing I said on this matter, I’m far more worried about what goes on behind closed doors of churches, cults, some foster homes (ala Jesus camps) than I am about a talented artist who openly discusses and exposes what he does with his child models.

Dear Celivia
Henson trustworthy?
hmmmm

If I was interested in finding child models for publically displayed photographs which could include nude postures...I'd be making jolly sure that for reasons of decency and trustworthiness that parents were informed BEFORE even asking for or accepting an invitation to a primary school to check them out.

Personally.. if 100 parents were informed of this plan before hand, I reckon there would be enough of them who would howl and yell NOOOOOOO that Henson would set foot within coeee of the place if he had any integrity.

SPEAKING of which.. Pooooooor "Stan" (The straw man) again gets a beating from SS grupenfuher CJ Morgan who persists in limiting the definition of terms to ONLY that which allows him to beat the stuffing out of poor Stan.
Sorry CJ.. you just don't want to be seen to be the dill you are making yourself there...so you dig your heels in and bleat 'false witness' etc to assuage your desperate craving for a 'Christians are bad' fix :)

People trained in explosives technology in Afghanistan who come back here and either DO something themselves with that knowledge or pass the knowledge onto others is... dare I say it, "used against us on our own soil"

Then there is the alliance aspect, where some of the 9/11 hijackers trained in Afghanistan, then took out the Pentagon, Twin towers and tried for the White house. Errr those events include "US" due to our alliance with the USA.
Grow up lil fella..

CJ Morgan,

I will continue to point out that crude comments from small mindedmen have no place on OLO
Just as celiva has rightfully pointed out what goes on behind closed doors of churches, cults, some foster homes (ala Jesus camps) than I am about a talented artist who openly discusses and exposes what he does with his child models.

So Porky actually meant that terrorist attacks in America took place on "our soil"? Riiiiggghht. One wonders why he didn't just say that's what he meant at the time, instead of being seen as a pathological liar.

Who would buy a used car from such a man, let alone take him seriously about anything else?

PALE&IF - of course you're free to post whatever garbled drivel you like. However, you've said numerous times that you don't address comments to me - I just wish you'd stick to your word.

Celevia “Now whom would I rather believe about Henson’s motives and purity of mind, the media or Henson and his models?”

You are more familiar than Henson’s work but I would believe the same as you :-)

CJ Moron, you are giving Morons a bad name