CJ Moron,

I have explained earlier why I believe that referring to someone who is behaving as a moron, as a moron, does not constitute flaming. I am happy to put that argument to the moderator should he/she raise this with me.

As I wrote, if you want to begin a serious discussion about conspiracy theories "from a social psychological perspective" then why not do so?

However, this is a forum to discuss the evidence or lack of evidence for complicity of the US Government in the 9/11 terrorist attacks on the US and not a forum to examine the psychology of those of us who question the US Government's explanation.

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CJ Moron wrote, "(alternative 9/11 conspiracies) have been rejected by virtually every serious commentator and analyst ..."

So could you tell the rest of us why you don't consider Colonel Robert Bowman, William Christisen and all those listed in the article at http://us-amnesia.blogspot.com/2007/05/excerpt-debunking-911-debunking-experts.html as as "serious commentators"? Could you tell me why you choose to disregard the testimony of William Rodriguez (http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/1219050.interview_the_untold_story_of_september_11/), who risked his life defying firemen's orders to leave the building, and was subsequently decorated by George Bush himself?

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The authority of Noam Chomsky, is one which is cited by Australian 9/11 deniers such as Phillip Adams as I have shown above.

What sort of credibility does a man who has stated openly that even if what he were to accept as evidence of US Government complicity in the 9/11 attacks were to emerge, "it doesn't have any significance" (http://thefilter.ca/articles/indoctrination/noam-chomsky-and-the-gatekeepers-of-the-left/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoDqDvbgeXM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhrZ57XxYJU)?

I ask again, CJ Moron, do you agree with Noam Chomsky that "it doesn't have any significance"?

It's a simple enough question to answer, I would have thought. If you disagree with Chomsky, then please explain to the rest of us why you still consider Chomsky a "serious commentator and analyst".

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Chomsky also pronounced that it was of no consequence it it were to be found that Lee Harvey Oswald did not murder President Kennedy on his own and, besides, sees nothing suspicious about the way Oswald himself was murdered so shortly after. Chomsky has also declared proper investigations into the murders of other US political figures of the 1960's to be unwarranted. In the early 1990's he carried out a largely successful disinformation campaign to discredit Oliver Stone's meticulously produced "JFK" which Phillip Adams passed on to his believing listeners, including myself, uncritically.

As Barrie Zwicker explains in a 45 minute interview at http://ningens-blog.blogspot.com/2006/12/sacred-cow-noam-chomsky-gored-by-barry.html whilst Chomsky has produced tomes of works which are ostensibly critical of US foreign policy, he has, by aiding cover-ups of the assassinations of JFK, MLK, Malcolm X, Robert Kennedy and now the 9/11 attacks, acted as if he was a paid US Government agent for all of those years, whether or not he actually was.

Barrie Zwicker describes Chomsky's technique as "bait and switch". The "bait" is eloquent writing against crimes commented by the US government often years after the events are of any great immediate consequence. The "switch" are the other ideas espoused by Chomsky, which serve the interests of the US oligarchy, which those who hold Chomsky in high regard feel bound to accept.

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CJ Moron, I stated that the person who made those two posts to OLO using the account 'cacofonix' was neither myself nor cacofonix as a courtesy to others who might have otherwise found the posts confusing.

CJ Moron, please correct me if I am wrong, but my understanding is that everyone who posts to OLO is entitled to anonymity, so what possible business is it of yours and what possible relevance does it have to the subject at hand?

James Sinnamon/daggett/cacofonix: << this is a forum to discuss the evidence or lack of evidence for complicity of the US Government in the 9/11 terrorist attacks on the US and not a forum to examine the psychology of those of us who question the US Government's explanation >>

Says who?

<< I stated that the person who made those two posts to OLO using the account 'cacofonix' was neither myself nor cacofonix as a courtesy to others who might have otherwise found the posts confusing. >>

Like I said before, how do you know? You appear to be having something of an identity crisis on top of everything else, poor chap.

As I also said before, get help.

I note that CJ Moron has not uttered a word in defence of Noam Chomsky.

Presumably, at least CJ Moron now agrees with me that Chomsky is not a "serious commentator and analyst ... from the Left".

It would be interesting to see if CJ Moron is able to name any other "serious commentator and analyst ... from the Left" who, like him, unquestioningly accepts the official US Government explanation of the 9/11 attacks.

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CJ Moron wrote, "Says who?".

CJ Moron, do you or don't you agree that we should stick to the topic at hand?

The topic, as I understand it is "9/11 Truth". I thought that that made it pretty clear the purpose of this discussion.

CJ Moron wrote: "Like I said before, how do you know?"

As I already wrote:

"CJ Moron, please correct me if I am wrong, but my understanding is
that everyone who posts to OLO is entitled to anonymity, so what
possible business is it of yours and what possible relevance does it
have to the subject at hand?"

CJ Moron wrote, "As I also said before, get help."

Since you claim to be so knowledgeable of psychology, why don't you offer your help?

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BTW, as I have now seemingly been transformed by CJ Moron into an object of his pity, rather than someone seeking to perpetrate fraud and deceit on an unwitting audience of OLO visitors, I wonder if this means that his objection to being referred to as "CJ Moron" no longer stands?

I agree that there's more to the 9/11 attacks than Al Qaeda. For me, the most interesting co-event was the van full of Mossad boys filming the twin towers as the planes came in - as reported by that well-known stronghold of left-wing conspiracy nuts, the New York Police Department.

That said, daggett, by writing "CJ Moron" in every line you're making yourself look like a tragic and hopeless basket case and a debater of no merit whatsoever.

Sancho "That said, daggett, by writing "CJ Moron" in every line you're making yourself look like a tragic and hopeless basket case and a debater of no merit whatsoever."

I disagree, as I recently pointed out to CJ Moron himself, he is giving morons a bad name.