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The doers and the takers and the gap is closing.

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I accept that my thread may appear to be ‘off topic’ however the beginning of it was just an introduction. Sorry if you were misled. It was not my intention.

(Part of my original thread) At no time have I stated that the 42% are ALL DOLE BLUDGERS. Nor have I stated that all on the dole are bludgers. Refer to paragraph two.

Let's look at the dole.
Many companies now have drug and alcohol free policies, yet, people on the dole, who are supposed to be actively seeking work can be off their face as long as they like and still get 'THEIR PAY' as many of them refer to it as.

Now I accept that this is not everyone who is on welfare, but it still stinks I recon when someone, having been supported by me, can have a life of leisure while I continue to work to plug the holes in the cookie jar.
Continued.
Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 6:42:12 AM
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Bugys, you say;
That 42% is not "sitting back and collecting benefits at the expense of the elderly" at all

So how do you figure this out. Taxes are collected and a portion is allocated to ALL WALFARE. Of cause the elderly are effected by how many mouths are fed before they get their share. It’s not rocket science, the more handouts allocated, the less each one receives.

Pardon us for getting rebates for having children, clearly that just isn't on.

For the record I don’t oppose any child being supported, what I do oppose to is that some children get support while others miss out

Imagine a system that sees ALL CHILDREN being provided with free meals every day at schools, free uniforms, hats etc, free text books and alike. Now that’s a fair system. Why shouldn’t all children be treated equally and be given the same?

At present a percentage of money intended for the support of children is wasted on plasma’s, grog, drugs, gambling and tobacco. Now if you don’t see this then you are blind to what is happening.

Welfare paid in dollars should be re-branded as ‘wastefare’ IN MANY CASES.

CJ
You have just described 80 to 90% of landlords.

My inner city unit attracts well to do executives who pay high rents, a price one pays for river and city views, therefore it is constantly upgraded and kept in top order and the returns are high. The Whitsunday one is somewhere in the middle and not in a holiday pool, items get fixed, not replaced while one of my rural properties is in poor condition and RENTS ACCORDINGLY.

So in essence I guess I am a slum lord, a normal land lord and an excellent land lord all in one hey!

Make no mistake. An investor invests in property to MAKE MONEY. Now if this means an upgrade when needed, then so be it because the returns are there. However if the rental returns are low, then we fix it rather than upgrade it.

Now what is wrong with that?
Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 9:32:42 PM
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What amazes me is that you make any money at all, when even basic statistical skills seem to elude you.

That 42% includes the elderly, how can they accept welfare at their own expense?

"Imagine a system that sees ALL CHILDREN being provided with free meals every day at schools, free uniforms, hats etc, free text books and alike. Now that’s a fair system. Why shouldn’t all children be treated equally and be given the same?"

A wonderful workers paradise, where we all equally fund your children with free meals and books exactly the same as the children of the lowest paid workers, while you still get to keep your three properties and boast about how much money you're making? Yes, that sounds very nice and so very fair, where do I sign up?

It just goes to show, you don't have to be smart to make money, you just really have to want to make money.

One last piece of advice: stop watching TT and ACA, that crap will fry your brain faster than kg of ice.
Posted by Bugsy, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 10:23:43 PM
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You're a legend, rehctub. One wonders why a paragon of material success like you feels the need to put the boot into those who are less fortunate than you.

Besides which, as Bugsy has pointed out, you don't seem to understand that the 42% figure includes the elderly welfare recipients who you claim are being ripped off by all these parasitic dole bludgers and drug addicts.

I think that Bugsy may also be correct about the intellectual damage that too much viewing of ACA, TT etc can cause.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Thursday, 25 September 2008 6:21:55 AM
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Ah Bugys, I see you have once again failed to answer my questions.

I don't know why you keep referring to TT and ACA, did they pick on you?

You have this delusion that well off families kids are 'well off'. Well you are wrong. Spoilt rich kids are well off, there is a difference!

As always you have displayed your 'tall poppy' syndrome outlook, "ah bugger it, let someone else pay for it". They can afford it.

Remember, my kids are no different to yours, so why treat them any different?

Of cause seniors (and I quote seniors, not pensioners) are part of the 42%. It is just that when they commenced work they didn't have all the 'hanger onners' that are there today. It's a 'welfare soup' out there. This why they suffer.GET IT!

Mate loose-rs, having loose-rs to become loose-rs is the very cause of the failing system we have right here today. The 'world owes me a living' generation. I'll bet there's loose-rs out there wishing they could have more loose-rs just to get the baby bonus hey!

Enjoy your poverty!
Posted by rehctub, Thursday, 25 September 2008 6:27:44 AM
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Fair enough Bugsy you are quite right.
I do understand just what you say about the over kill.
But I still without shame want more for those who need it and less for those who do not.
I think we must also balance that 42% many are on such low incomes we should support them.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 25 September 2008 6:35:24 AM
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