It has been revealed that 42.2% of families receive more in welfare than they pay in taxes, ALMOST HALF!

Now doing the math this means that the remaining 57.8% of us have to top us the other half and pay the bills along the way, and we wonder why our seniors are struggling to put three meals a day on the table.

With the recent introduction of the Baby bonus and maternity leave one wonders where the next bill for us 57.8 per-centers is going to come from.

We already pay our medicare contributions by way of a percentage of our wage, yet have to pay to see the doctor, so what's next?

Let's look at the dole.
Many companies now have drug and alcohol free policies, yet, people on the dole, who are supposed to be actively seeking work can be off their face as long as they like and still get 'THEIR PAY' as many of them refer to it as.

Now I accept that this is not everyone who is on welfare, but it still stinks I recon when someone, having been supported by me, can have a life of leisure while I continue to work to plug the holes in the cookie jar. Kids having kids just for the money is a prime example.

It's time us 57.8 per-centers protest to this scandal and demand better value for our money.

Perhaps we can set up a trust fund and pay our taxes into here then release them once the system floors are corrected. Any legal eagles out there like to comment on this option?

What is this, Today Tonight?

...and after the ads we'll find a Muslim that's rorting the system to bash.

We should actually do a story on dodgy landlords, eh Butcher?.

Yeah Bugsy - just another whinge from one of our resident wealthy Scrooges. Just wait for someone to post something like

SOCIALISM BY STEALTH!!

This phenomenon is not new. Howard was a master at giving grants tied to specific social engineering outcomes, such as having children and the number of those grants has increased to the point that all the personal tax dollars can't pay for them. The ATO's figures show that for several years the Australian citizenry has taken more from the Government coffers in benefits, grants, pensions, deductions, rebates and the like than they have paid in income tax. Tony Abbott made the point explicit while Health Minister when he clearly differentiated between "the Taxpayer" and "the beneficiaries" of the health portfolio during a 7:30 Report interview.. As the only "taxpayers" not also "beneficiaries" are corporate entities, he clearly understood where the money was coming from.

I've been advocating zero personal tax ever since and I was chuffed to hear Turnbull's comments about starting to reduce the compliance costs. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to work out that if the system gives out more than it takes in already, then administrative overhead is also a dead loss. Getting rid of several thousand tax office staff who exist only to administer personal taxes would save billions for the Govt on top of the billions that would be saved for individuals. the people thus freed from the Govt bureaucracy (that also grew enormously under Howard) would then be available for genuinely productive work in other fields. The only loss would be to the social engineering capacity of the Govt.

rectum said

Perhaps we can set up a trust fund and pay our taxes into here then release them once the system floors are corrected. Any legal eagles out there like to comment on this option?

this is the same post you delivered in "let's starve the pensioners to death because they all play the pokies"

I beat you [with FF argument] on that so your minders have told you to bash the dole bludgers [perhaps do a Vanstone and investigate the Wright family - just "add a couple of kids"]

who ARE the minders of the Forum now Howard has gone?

I am thinking Ludwig Van Joe, the new best mate of CSA

and no need for new fund, just release the $65 billion Costello stole from the pensioners to fund YOUR unfunded super, Mate