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Put any pension increase into rent assistance?

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*When developers risk going bankrupt, the last thing they would want to do is land bank!*

Some who are not broke prefer to hold back to control price.
The very last thing these people need is the Government doing deals with extra money going direct to landlords

These darling deals have created a lot more hardship for those who need it in the first place.

Also the people I saw on TV were eating dog food or not eating at all
Its all very well to say dont give them a extra thirty dollars a week but the single ones would need it.

Be fair and consider when you have two elderly people living together they get double.
The poor old man or lady next door is living alone and only getting half of their income.
He or she would still have the same rates and running repairs as the couple next door.

No wonder these people cant manage.
I hate welfare blugers but this is different. Give the single elderly and those who are disadvantaged the extra money to live.

I think most landlords can afford to lower their rent by twenty dollars TBO in these hard times.
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Sunday, 14 September 2008 5:45:59 AM
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So (live exports) why should landlords lower their rents, they already pay additional costs such as ambulance levies in many cases, excess water usage, green levies etc.
Did you except your recent tax decrease or did you forgo that for the sake of the battlers.

Did you forgo your recent pay increase or give it up for someone more needy?

These is no simple answer as if you increase the single pension you will encourage cheating of the system much in the way that two single welfare recipients live together illegally.

I still think the answer may be in providing basic rather than money. Lets face it the harsh fact is that many of these battlers are in this predicament due to their lack of forward planning. Now we can't all be clever or have/create breaks but why continue to feed this trend with disposable dollars?
Posted by rehctub, Sunday, 14 September 2008 8:19:17 AM
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We lowered the rent when our long term tennants wife died by thirty twenty five dollars. If we can afford to do that so can others.

Gee I guess it was bad planning that this mans wife passed away. They will have to plan it better next time.
I do think however tennants need to be made reasonsible for their own water.
My comments were directed only at aged singles not your average welfare blugers that should not be getting one cent of the taxes paid by our aged people all their lives.
Also look at the RTA. Now how interesting. You and I provide houses for the rental market to save he Government. They take and hold the bond and deposits for years. Look at all that interest.
Nice little lurk. So perhaps the Government already have the thirty dollars for aged singles
Sure they do its all tucked away in their unaccounted for bank accounts that they would have without us- The land lords.

If we were talking about unemployment dole blugers I would post a diferent view.
However ths is for he people who made Australia what it is today. Give the oldies another $50.00 I say and cut the blugers off at the kneews.
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Sunday, 14 September 2008 8:43:23 AM
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Now I accept that there are some sad cases where they have been forced into poverty through little or no fault of their own

yes indeed and stats show the figure is 50% of of marraiges "go bust" but the "system" says it is bloke who loses the lot, incl any super

so it is a gender thing as well, ie old single men, most of whom worked their guts out for 40 years, possibly served their country in military [even if not by choice] without one cent of compensation for saving you from "the Yellow Peril" as Menzies called it so you could "save your pennies" as you say [or slop in the Future Fund more like it] and now feel all warm & cuddly that these old buggers have to grovel to you to be reasonable with rent
Posted by Divorce Doctor, Sunday, 14 September 2008 10:12:03 AM
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I dont think its a gendor thing at all. Be it single man or single woman.
I am only refering to aged people not the whole welfare system.
Of course its the Governments job to care for the elderly well before the landlord.
Its not rocket science. If you have two payments going into one house and only 'one into next door-
Then you know the one next door is doing it harder to feed themselves and pay their rates etc.

Remember these people paid the highest taxes possible all their lives.

When our long term tennant passed away we were very aware of the struggle it would be for the one left on a single payment.
We didnt make out we we doing him a favour either.

We just said as he house was getting older we felt we were over charging. We also said we needed some place to grow veggies and as the soil was better there would he mind watering them and picking them.
He takes great pride and it gives him another interest.

He meets us at the gate every couple of weeks or so to show off his new this or that. He always has the billy on for a cuppa. Sure at times we get busy but it hurt to stop and think what these old people did for us.
My sister also took him around a couple of chooks that follow him around as he potters about the garden and of course they provide fresh eggs. He chats away to them and they are good company.

I dont think it would hurt many landlords to help out our elderly.
In fact I know many who have done so already.
The thirty dollars a week to these people means the difference between people being able to put meat on their table or not.
Now dont you go dobbing on me to the libbers will you:)
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Sunday, 14 September 2008 11:03:25 AM
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The thirty dollars a week to these people means the difference between people being able to put meat on their table or not.

so where does $30 come in?

is Kevin '07 floating this, and in what form?

and yes, I do have some meat but $30 would get me some "nice spleen, some fava beans and a Chianti Classico" every Sunday as a treat
Posted by Divorce Doctor, Sunday, 14 September 2008 11:56:31 AM
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