seems this whole thread is re hearsay

IF people are concerned WHY have they not gone to ABS etc to get correct evidence

like start point [which Costello avoided] is how MANY pensioners are there, of what sex and how many single/couples etc

anyone??

Its not rocket science to figure our two people living on pensions in the one house "is far easier than one"

Lets remember even the Government on both sides have acknowledged this.
This isnt about uni kids or Hecks. To put them on the same page is an insult to our elderly.

How insensitive to debate a few lousey dollars when we are talking about these single elderly people.


These old darlings worked two or three jobs and paid tripple taxes and attended night school after working all day to better themselves.



If it comes down between our elderly and- giving Hecks then I say get a job and pay for your education (after hours) like most elderly people did. Stop expecting handouts.

This world is changing and not far down the track 'many' handouts including hecks will have to cease.

The ones that should stay are our elderly and 'especially single elderly people '

Well pale if they can't see your point that two are better off than one then forget it. Remember, some people like an argument, even if they are wrong.

Now it is no coincidence that there is a link between poverty and poker machines. Get rid of the pokies and you may see some healthy changes.

Make a pack of fags $45 with $40 of this being tax. Then, if you waste you money on fags then at least the rest of the seniors will benefit from the extra taxes you pay.

What about increasing the medicare levy by a flat $10 per week and put this towards seniors pensions. We did it with the gun buy back, only this time make it a flat rate as I reject having to pay a % of wage when others pay nil.

All of these taxes raised can then be credited to either their rent if they rent, or their mortage or rates if they own. Everyone should get the same amount.

There is no easy answers but if the bus loads of seniors arriving at the pokie venues is any indication, then more money in thier poackets won't help

yes indeed PALE, but let ME join in with hearsay and do some maths

Costello said same dogma, we can't afford to keep our olden cheeze, no figures, no pack drill

BUT then he made it worse by TAKING 65 billion FROM them [and I am guessing at 2 million old cheeze like me, so he took 32 grand from each], and my reading of the Constitution clearly says all revenue must be consolidated into ONE fund

so ponder on that folks and in the next episode I will explain who GOT that money

gosh, no replies - well let's get factual hey dudes

as the PC pedants in this thread extol buses full of wrinklies departing the Rissole Club having spent all their pension on pokies, I can VERIFY that as I type this I am totally surrounded by Grey Nomads with HUGE rigs, some worth $1 million [and I can supply photos if you need proof]

but these old farts have spent $1,000 in petrol just to get here from Toorak/St Ives, and they settle in to do SFA but watch TV, ie they have so MUCH money they can't possibly spend it

but where did they GET it?

next episode will reveal all

but please have your say folks

DD Go on, the suspense is killing me.
What relevence does this have to this thread, or did I miss something. I thought this was about how to solve the problems with the battlers, not the well off. Hope they didn't sell their homes and put their millions into super.