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'Crunch time' Kevin, David & Tara Brown

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"I have just found my name on the list!?"

Greetings Q&A

I trust you've voiced your strong objections to the dodgy organisers of that petition over the fraudulent inclusion of your name.
Posted by dickie, Thursday, 21 August 2008 12:58:55 PM
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Here again we see the main thrust of Q&A and Dickie is to discredit anyone who questions conventional wisdom.Neither of them will enter into direct logical debate.They only allude to a scientific reference which suports their bias.Dickie eg.cannot explain how Severinghaus' explanation of CO2 being an amplifier of GW makes all the other gases retain heat.Is it a catalyst,if so,how does it chemically/physically influence the other gases to retain energy?For every molecule of CO2 there are 2500 of other gases that make up our atmosphere.How is CO2 2500 times more powerful in retaining heat energy?

There are no experiments that demonstrate the above claims by the AGW believers.Science is all about scepticism ,testing/questioning from every possible angle and the theory of CO2 causing AGW is far from being proven!
Posted by Arjay, Thursday, 21 August 2008 8:29:53 PM
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Arjay, have you bothered to look at Prof. Barry Brooks' blog? He's an Australian climate scientist who, unlike most public commentators, actually knows what he's talking about:

http://bravenewclimate.com/

I directed you to it in the first response to your initial post in this thread, and others have reminded you of it since. You claim to want to know and discuss the scientific facts of the debate, and we've directed you to a site that is specifically set up to answer your questions. There's even a Climate Science lecture and tutorial series there, starting tomorrow.

If you disagree with the science, Prof. Brooks welcomes comments and responds to civil and serious questions. I suggest you suppposed 'sceptics' go and play, learn and engage there, rather than literally promoting ignorance in order to avoid doing anything proactive about the looming environmental/economic crisis.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Thursday, 21 August 2008 10:02:00 PM
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"They only allude to a scientific reference which suports (sic) their bias." (Arjay)

I think that says enough about Arjay, our science laureate!
Posted by dickie, Thursday, 21 August 2008 10:57:48 PM
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Dear me!

Carbon dioxide is a pollutant?

Why does the hydroponic vegetable industry release carbon dioxide into their greenhouses? Answer, to promote plant growth.

Ok Alarmists, supposing you are right, how do you account for the drop in temperature since 2001 and if you tell me that that drop is caused by GW I'll ask you to verify how it is that that can be so.

Will someone give me proof that CO2 is a pollutant?

Cheers
Posted by phoenix94, Friday, 22 August 2008 10:00:57 AM
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Hello there Phoenix94

“Carbon dioxide is a pollutant?” Well yes indeed it is. Too much CO2 on plant life can also have a destructive effect. Vitamin D is extremely beneficial to humans, however, too much of that is toxic. Humans need iron too, to prevent anaemia – an excess will soon rust you out . All things in moderation Phoenix94 - that goes for CO2 as well:

http://www.stanford.edu/group/efmh/jacobson/Testimony0408%202.pdf

http://www.whoi.edu/oceanus/viewArticle.do?id=7486

http://www.nsf.gov/news/news_summ.jsp?cntn_id=106861

"Ok Alarmists, supposing you are right, how do you account for the drop in temperature since 2001 and if you tell me that that drop is caused by GW I'll ask you to verify how it is that that can be so."

Have you considered the cooling effects of La Nina Phoenix94?

La Niña had been in the average range of such events, but the recent cooling will likely put it in the stronger-than-average category, according to the World Meteorology Organization.

La Niña normally lasts nine to 12 months. The current event started in the July-September quarter of last year.

WMO stated that "it is rare for a La Niña event to persist for two years or more, such as occurred from early 1998 to early 2000, The likelihood of the current La Niña continuing for such a period will remain unclear for some months.

"We can expect with high probability this year will be cooler than the previous five years," said Omar Baddour, responsible for climate data and monitoring at the WMO.

"Definitely the La Nina should have had an effect, how much we cannot say.

"Up to July 2008, this year has been cooler than the previous five years at least. It still looks like it's warmer than average," added Baddour.

Does anyone know if the La Nina has completed its cycle yet?
Posted by dickie, Friday, 22 August 2008 3:06:45 PM
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