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Skimpy Clothes and Shallow marriages.

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Dear runner,

I stand corrected. You did say, "dress as sluts."

However, the implication remains - that by dressing
as "sluts," (in other words "provocatively,") according
to you they are somehow "asking for it." Encouraging
an assault, and are therefore at least partially at fault.

Again, you're shifting the control of male advances to the
female.

A well dressed man stepping from an expensive limousine
would never be accused of thereby tempting someone to
mug him.

I rest my case.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 14 August 2008 4:18:37 PM
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"...she sometimes looks at them with 'you perve' in her expression."
Or perhaps with a look that indicates "I can see you find me attractive but it's not reciprocated. Please do not approach." Age-old tactic used by both men and women. Saves a great deal of time.

"But what is he 'advancing' on ?"
A woman he finds attractive, presumably.

"Well.. initially it is just the 'charms'....but then.. once involved (some might say entrapped)..."
Why might some say "entrapped"? Do you not think men can take responsibility for their own actions?

As for the rest of that dreary little tale, it's all too depressing. I would suggest that the couple in question are so fundamentally unable to understand that their spouse is just another member of the human race that they should break up as soon and as maturely as possible.

In reality, men are more intelligent and women less conniving — and they are both more like each other — than your cardboard cut-out scenario from 1956 would suggest. As R0bert points out, physical attraction is one part of the complex but delicious muddle of desire.

"So.. I raise the question.. should our attire be used more for 'protection' and a minimalist 'charms display' centre..where the focus is more on the whole person?
No. Women can wear whatever the hell they want. If a man or woman wants to focus on the whole person rather than their appearance, then they should do that regardless of what the other person is, or isn't, wearing. If a couple decides to go with a superficial physical attraction then they are free to do so. Personally, I went for, and, to my eternal gratitude, found someone who is the complete package.

Some women may choose to look modest and appropriate. Others may dress to make Pammy Anderson look nunnish. It's our choice, and men, imbued with the same freedom, are perfectly able to deal with it.
Posted by Veronika, Thursday, 14 August 2008 4:49:04 PM
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Foxy

A woman walking around the back streets of any city at night in a mini skirt might not be asking for anything but she would be very very stupid. A mother priming her young daughter to dress in a provocative way is just as stupid. It is a simple fact that most men are turned on by women dressing seductively. This is no way condones the man who does not control his passions but it sends a simple message of common sense to parents. Your little analogy makes little sense. Maybe even at your age you choose live in denial.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 14 August 2008 5:22:13 PM
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That sounds a remarkably familiar sentiment, runner.

>>A woman walking around the back streets of any city at night in a mini skirt might not be asking for anything but she would be very very stupid. A mother priming her young daughter to dress in a provocative way is just as stupid. It is a simple fact that most men are turned on by women dressing seductively.<<

Now where have I heard it before recently?

Ah yes, now I remember.

"If you take uncovered meat and put it on the street, on the pavement, in a garden, in a park, or in the backyard, without a cover and the cats eat it, then whose fault will it be, the cats, or the uncovered meat’s? The uncovered meat is the disaster. If the meat was covered the cats wouldn’t roam around it. If the meat is inside the fridge, they won’t get it. If the woman is in her boudoir, in her house and if she’s wearing the veil and if she shows modesty, disasters don’t happen."

Not much wriggle room between that pair of sentiments, is there
Posted by Pericles, Thursday, 14 August 2008 6:03:27 PM
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Runner! There called prostitutes! lol. What the hell is wrong with you? Why do all you religious people have to turn everything into a filthy dirty lie!

You should all go to the hospital and get that corn cob out of your butts and get a life!

EVO
Posted by EVO, Thursday, 14 August 2008 6:05:25 PM
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Dear runner,

You wrote that even at my age I choose to "live in
denial." What a peculiar thing to say.

Denial of what exactly?

Actually at my age, I tend to indulge, not deny.

But that's a different topic.

To get back to this one.

Anybody walking around the back streets of any city
alone at night or being in deserted places would
be taking a risk. Regardless or how they're dressed.
If you've read my earlier post, I did make it quite
clear that "skimpy clothing" was a matter of
appropriateness, common sense, and taste.
Most parents I know, have all three.

I actually don't know of any mothers who encourage their
daughters to dress "provocatively." But then they also
don't encourage aggressiveness in their sons either.

As for my "little analogy making little sense," to you.

I'm not at all surprised.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 14 August 2008 6:40:38 PM
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