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The Stupidity of Population Growth

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Very good kulu.

So what can the people who share these views do about it?

This is such a critical issue; bigger than any other in Australia….except perhaps for the immediate and very ominous threat that ever-rising fuel prices are likely to have on the very coherence of our society.

What can we do to band together into a united force and tackle the absurdity of very high immigration and continuous rapid expansionism imposed upon us by our government?

How on earth do we deal with issue?
Posted by Ludwig, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 8:41:14 AM
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Kulu - I would suggest not holding your breath while you await a rational argument in response to your final question.!. This is one of those issues where the politicians and commercial proponents don't believe in arguing the case with the public BEFORE implementation and then ignore all opposition. This is because they have no logical and rational argument to support it and it is solely to satisfy their greed for power and wealth.
We must all brace ourselves for increasing shortages of water, more vast tracts of bushland and farmland swallowed up by urban sprawl, even more gridlock on the roads and acompanying pollutions, increasing difficulties in public transport to places of work and recreation, longer hospital waiting lists, and more competition for school and child care places etc etc.
My personal protest has been to ignore all water saving measures as they are totally futile and a waste of time, money, and energy, until zero population growth is achieved.
I shall also be making this a major issue to the best of my ability when the next elections come around. Only a politician who supports zero population growth will get my vote and those of many others I have spoken to. And the Greenies don't seem to care about the environmental issues raised by population growth.
Posted by ChazP, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 6:33:43 PM
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Yes, there is a massive battle ahead to get the politician's attention on the disastrous consequences of their mindless pursuit of growth.

The Greens have a policy that does not set limits on refugees but at least asserts that population growth should not be driven by economic goals or the need to counter an aging population. They also are strong on setting policies that address the global population issue which is better than what the big two can offer.

Within the Greens too, which I joined a couple of years ago there is very definite support for a population stabilization policy for Australia and I think it will only be a matter of time before they buckle under and accept a policy that does set limits on ALL immigration to Australia as well as of course policies to discourage high birth rates here. I certainly will do my best to push the issue at every opportunity.
Posted by kulu, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 8:52:01 PM
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“I certainly will do my best to push the issue at every opportunity.”

The best of luck with that kulu. I hope you are a whole lot more successful than I was in the early 90s.
Posted by Ludwig, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 9:23:09 PM
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So Brumby is making a token gesture that he intends to reduce immigration into Victoria. At least he is beginning to acknowledge there is a problem and that this is the cause of the many infrastructure issues. It would be interesting to know how intends to do it - or whether it is just hot air.

Of course he has no control over the handouts of the Baby Bonuses and Child Care subsidies that taxpayers have had to bear, but he could offer a Vasectomy Bonus to counter its effects.!. Maybe double the Baby Bonus?.

The target must be Zero Population Growth within a very short timescale.
Posted by ChazP, Saturday, 2 August 2008 8:20:50 AM
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It’s hot air Chaz. All that Brumby is espousing is a pause in the acceleration of the migrant influx into Melbourne. He’s quite happy to allow the current rate of influx to continue...apparently

He also stated that he thinks that Rudd’s policy of 200 000 immigrants per year is about right and that he supports continued population growth in Victoria.
http://blogs.theage.com.au/yoursay/archives/2008/08/time_to_slow_down.html

OK, perhaps not quite hot air, but it certainly isn’t as good as it first appears. As you say; he is at least beginning to acknowledge that there is a problem. It is good that he can see that there are limits to the rate of population growth, both into Melbourne and into Australia (he doesn’t want us to have much more than 200 000 pa). But this is still a long way from appreciating limits to population size.

Of course, he like all other major politicians continues to be totally at odds with the general community on the population growth issue. See this poll; http://www.theage.com.au/polls/results.html. The question is; ‘Is Victoria’s population growing too fast? 76% of respondents say yes.
Posted by Ludwig, Saturday, 2 August 2008 12:02:53 PM
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