I struggle to see where the figures come from. Any stuff I've read about where bombs are being dropped there hasn't been mention of the Red Cross or reporters standing there watching. So where do the figures come from?. The yanks aren't gonna talk up the numbers about how many civilians they killed, but how reliable are the Taliban and the civilians themselves?. The civilians side with whoever it suits them in regards to their safety but always suspicious of the the Allies, and understandably so. The reports basically say 'Afghan officials state' the numbers...

Afghan Officials?...which ones, the same ones the Allies are sick of bowing to their whims for the sake of keeping them onside?...

It happens no doubt, but be aware that even the newspapers aren't always correct. Big shock. They'll print it as truth if someone says it.

Steel, blinded by his/her/its devotion to an outdated philosophy, can't see the difference between deliberately murdering hundreds of innocent people, and the unintentional deaths of civilians who are being used as human shields by the islamo-facists.

I despair for Col Rouge who can't see the difference between someone who sells marijuana to consenting adults and a person/persons who set out to inflict maximum carnage upon an unwitting public. Col if you honestly can't see a difference between these two acts then there is something seriously wrong with you.

I will rejoice when the bali bombers are shot. This nonsense that they will become martyrs is just that, nonsense. They are already lionised and every day they continue to breathe they give other militants hope. Killing them will put an end to the suffering of the families of the bali victims who have to endure the smirking of Amrozi and his mates and the soft treatment they receive.

There simply is no case to be made that killing them would strengthen the hand of militants. The people who spout this nonsense clearly don't understand that the Islamists have the ultimate motivation, a belief that GOD has ordained their mission. Mere revenge for the mistreatment of a fellow traveler is way down on the list of motivating factors.

Besides, anyone who seriously thinks they would ROT in jail has had a brain bypass. They would be in 3 star accommodation until such times as the Indonesians could find a way to let them out. I say kill them now while its still possible to get any justice from this situation . Let them know that if they want to die for their cause we will accommodate them to the best of our abilities.

I can not fathom those peoples' thinking who object to the death penalty. Who says it's wrong to do away with bad human beings. Who says we have to tolerate heinous crimes ?Thou shalt not kill ? I always wonder if that is the right interpretation from the old scriptures or whatever they're called. I think it possible that it should be "not murder" rather than "not kill". One hell of a difference there.

yeah human rights...

http://www.myspace.com/humanrightsact_tv

a human rights act for australia!

PaulL I note your remark about *a brain bypass* and in the thread above a comment that some one is a dolt.
I am reminded that to both under value your opponent and over value your own views is not proof you are right.
For some of us personal insults are a sign of a weak argument.

Paul L.: "the Islamists have the ultimate motivation, a belief that GOD has ordained their mission."

So they're just like the Zionists, then. Thanks for clearing that up.