I got ill this morning.

I clicked on the Sydney Daily Telegraph and here is a story, that if printed up correctly, suggests the sellout of Australia, in time of conflict, to Red China.

The story on the Sydney Daily Telegraph website reads, under the heading of...

Australia may have to choose: China or US (click on it).

"Australias close military ties to the US could comprimise our security unless we also embrace a rapidly growing China.
An independent study yesterday said that, if tensions between the global superpower, the US, and the pretender to that crown, China, boiled over, Australia could be drawn into a conflict for all the wrong reasons.

..."The latest strategic insight from the Australian Stategic Policy Institute (ASPI) painted a disturbing picture of a regional arms build-up led by China and its neighbour India.
Were great powers relations in the Asia pacific to deteriorate, there would be the potential for our allaince with the US to embroil us in periods of tension or even conflict"...

WHAT IS THIS?

It comes across to me as a sellout of our big, wide and wonderful country, in time of war, from anglo-saxon Christian democracy over to Red Chinese communism, with all of its abuses of human rights, just to save Australia?

If this is so... it is a very cowardly and a traitorous attitude, one that would cause our diggers, all of the men and women who gave their lives to protect this nation from oppression, to roll over in their graves.

SELLOUT TO CHINA? FOR ANY REASON?

*Better to sell out to the USA today and become another State of their nation and invite them in to fortify the nation than allow a cowards sellout to China at anytime!

Invite US Defense to take over Australia...at least the Americans are three quarters civilised.

Someone tell me I got the story wrong.

Shut up Gibo. Your post is extremely stupid.

How dare you say that Australia should become a state of the USA... That is the very definition of what a traitor is.

“Shut up Gibo….”

I don’t endorse this sort of comment at all. Good on you Gibo for expressing your concerns.

“At least the Americans are three-quarters civilised”

And China isn’t civilised eh. MMMmmm, them’s inciteful words Gib!

If it ever comes to Australia having to choose between Chinkeeland or the Yankeeland, I’m sure our illustrious leaders will do it with the best interests of the country, economy and society in mind.

We have to be concerned about the growing strength of China and the build-up of its army. If it ever comes to major conflict between China and the US, it may well be better for li’’le ol’ Oz to suck up to China….and bid our long-time ally a fond and reluctant fair-well.

I think the European-cum-multinational occupation of the Great South Land is going to be a short phase in between two very long phases; the aboriginal occupation and the Asian (Chinese) one.

So what do we do? Hold out and be taken over in a hostile manner, or bow to a slow and steady rate of infiltration?

Are there any other options?

Not so stupid Steel.
If the Chinese ever get here you young folks will lose everything you ever had and dreamed of.
They will take the Australian women for themselves, thanks to a one child policy they established that killed their own girl children, and the great strong Aussie male will become a whimp working in a Chinese vegetable garden.
Satan owns China. This we see in the way the government treats its own people.
Guys like you Steel come across as cowardly. Too chicken hearted to go to war even for the country that suckled you.
Stand against China in your hearts each day and you have done the noble thing by Australia...and pray for your country. Only prayer in the end will save Australia from the great Chinese expansion.

Good to hear from you Ludwig.
Youre up the Far North arent you?
Ever thought of joining a gun club?
Ive got a mate up in Cairns.
He's in a gun club and I encouraged him.
The state of the nations defences is so 3rd world what could I do?

There are a number of ways we can stop China from taking our precious land (they already refer to us as NEW SOUTH CHINA and NEW CHINA, so travellers who have visited Chinese classrooms in the 1980's tell us. They have maps showing us re-named as such).
First we tackle Steels objection to the USA and invite the Americans in.
We help them build more bases and we allocate them land for their housing developments.
We encourage them to build towns; and even if it comes to a USA take-over of much of Australia, we support it.
Better an American ownership than a Chinese.
We establish a citizens home guard defence force and see that its equiped and not centred in major cities.
Make it "far-scattered" so it cant be targeted.
Encourage a return to log cabin living/self-sufficiency farming in support of "citizens home guard".
Give land to willing couples who want to return to the bush.
Help them with self-sufficiency. Train them for a citizens defence force.
Allow the yanks to store their nukes here.
Establish a capability to take nukes to mainland China.
Put a bit of fear into them.
1,000 Chinese spies already on Australian soil suggest they already feel they own Australia.
Be alert to the seditious attempts of some, from within the nation, to encouarge a closeness to Red China. Communism isnt dead here in this Great South Land of The Holy Spirit.
It mutated after the Berlin Wall went down... and took on new suits. I believe it.
Pray for Australia. Dont give in to China.
Its too gross for me to contemplate.
They murder born again christians on their own soil...they will do it to christians here.

The need for climate change is more important to Australia than the destruction of its economy.Nothing is made in Australia anymore, everything we see around us is 'made in china', so what economy does Australia have if nothing is made here anymore?

Anyway, I thought I'll post an interesting read on climate change, with an alternative criticism of current policy.A very interesting read, recommended, see below

http://209.85.175.104/search?q=cache:PT5Ne23HQrgJ:www.lavoisier.com.au/papers/articles/EvansQuadrantMarch2008.pdf+fraud+Garnaut&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=21&gl=au

Cheers