Dear Banjo,

My husband would fully agree with what you're saying.

As I said previously - I have to think about it
a bit more.

I admit I have a problem with generalising and putting
people into "groups."

Because amongst each group - there's always exceptions -
people who don't agree or fit into that group.

I'll have to get back to you on that one...

I'm off to a wedding, so I'll post when I get back.

We in Australia MUST learn from the experiences overseas,especially in Europe.Refugees being allowed into Australia must be screened for adaptability on the basis of custom,tradition and religion. In fairness to them we should be fully up-front with them regarding what we expect from them, tell tem what our customs,traditions and religions are and what we are prepared to allow and WHAT WE WILL NOT COMPROMISE ON.

Australian society can only be enriched by peoples from all over the world coming to Australia with their unique dress and dietary traditions, their languages and customs and their music and songs and dances. We would love to share our country with them I welcome them with love and open arms.

There is NOTHING wrong with wanting to protect what is our own. If anyone charges us with racism over this issue then so be it. They can call us whatever they choose to. The fact remains that those we do not want to share our lives with are NOT WELCOME and they better not come, or if already here, then they should LEAVE..And if they have managed to sneak in with lies and pretensions then we have the right and should have the stomach to deport them. The only rights refugees have in Australia are those we give them in exchange for what they give us that is acceptable by our own standards.

socratease

socratease,
Agree completely and I take it you also include immigrants as well as refugees.

As you say, we need to be sure those contemplating coming here are fully aware of our society and the way we live. For too long we have simply relied on word of mouth. The friends and relos already here want others to come so paint a picture to encourage, which may not be altogether accurate. The informaion has to be given before the decission is made to come here.

If they were aware of our society, I just don't understand how people of a completely different culture would want to come here. then try to maintain their old culture.

Banjo
Let me tell you why there has been an eruption of Muslims all over the first world countries.
.(1) There are educated and liberal muslims who have found that unemployment has driven the uneducated,unemployed,frustrated and angry muslims into the arms of Wahabist/fundos who have exploited them to make life untenable.These are the real refugees who have been displaced not by war but by choice to free themselves of the mad turbanned and bearded and very ignorant mullahs and imams,bigots and racists that they are.

(2) Then you have the Wahabist-driven Third Caliphate madmen who plan to rule the world and convert everyone to Islam,if you go by the ravings of the imams from Finsbury Park in London. Ali Bakkar Bashir ,the spiritual leader of JI in Indonesia, has openly declared that northern Australia and Queensland,and all the islands in between including the Philipines are part of the Third Caliphate. To this end, Al Qaida has attacked Afghanistan and are busy in Iraq. They have cut the world into portions that are to be conquered.

Along with the liberal and educated Muslims who have fled their homelands for the reasons given above have come "sleepers" ,the core of hundreds of bigoted racists of the Third Caliphate. The trial is currently underway of elements of this mob led by Ben Brika who last year planned to infiltrate the MCG and kill as many of us as they could to begin the assault and create panic.

I must say that many Muslim countries are opposed to this sort of interpretation of Islam, countries like all the North African rim.Iran and Syria too are opposed to it.So is Saudi Arabia, strangely enough the home of the Wahabists!! and the prosperous and liberal orientated UAE. Look what happened in Syria when the Muslim Brotherhood posed a threat to the government. They trapped them all in the towns where they had collected,ringed the entire area with tanks and artillery and levelled the whole lot killing tens of thousands of them.
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socratease

Dear Banjo,

Well I'm back.

After reading what Socratease had to say,
I admit, it makes a lot of sense.

I have to agree with him, and you.

Foxy and Banjo

I am all in favour of accepting refugees and sharing our resources with them.They have my sympathy and support.
When I see Vietnamese,Chinese and Sri Lankan young people going arm in arm with Australians I feel a warm glow of the mutuality that is expressed.They will prove an asset to our community in the future.

What pisses me off no end is when so-called refugees turn up and make demands that run contrary to our tradtions,mores and values and then want to overtly and covertly threaten us with destruction and death if we fail to get what they demand.
Muslims demand we recognise and legalise polygamy and accept the implementation of sharia to meet their needs. A man like Keyser Trad was unemployed or at best had an insecure source of employment but he had a wife and NINE kids and wanted to marry again,and as he said he had actually proposed to another woman. There have been many others living on the dole who also want the imam to grant them multiple wives...each Muslim woman bears about 6 kids so that they want us to finance their kids and wives. In most Muslim countries only about 1% have multiple wives because most of the men are too poor and uneducated to have their claims legalised.Most of the countries where they have fled are poor and life is too vulnerable to suport polygamy. It was never intended for every man.Here they are happy to live off tax payers and want us to subsidise their indulgences. That's some bloody cheek!

What do they have to offer Australia?Currently there is a trial under way of the worst of the rotten bunch who had planned to blow up the MCG during the '07 Grand Finals.Imagine the massacre! Another had tried to blow up Lucas Heights Atomic Reactor.
Look at the contribution they are making to life in the UK and EU !!
They want all! They have ambitions of establishing The Third Caliphate all over the world.
Why the hell do we have to have them here!

socratease