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Refugees and Ideologies

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Good thoughts from one and all ..

for me, I'm just wondering..do any of us see specific dangers in accepting some political or ideologically bent people here?
Belly has a view there.. and Foxy seems supportive of us selecting in our best interests..

What is likely to happen if for example we accepted all 3 of our hyperthetical refugees here?

cheers
Posted by Polycarp, Thursday, 26 June 2008 6:13:40 AM
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Some may wish to comment on the following story about where 'ideologies' can lead:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/06/25/2285395.htm

Speaking to Triple J's Hack program, Keysar Trad revealed that he once proposed to another woman with the consent of his wife, Hanefa.

"I certainly would not have entertained the thought of having a relationship without a religious marriage," Mr Trad said.

"Rather than entertain any thoughts of an affair, I thought the only decent thing to do was consider a proper commitment to that person."

Hanefa Trad admitted some of the marriages were about men wanting sex with more women.

But she said if the relationship was done in the right way it could avoid the man going to a prostitute or dating a woman for one night and leaving her.

Bigamy and polygamy are illegal in Australia but in the Islamic community, people get around the laws by marrying in religious ceremonies performed by Sheikhs.

Comments?
Posted by Polycarp, Thursday, 26 June 2008 8:04:17 AM
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Dear Polycarp,

When people are accepted as migrants
into any country around the globe
they are asked to pledge loyalty
to that country and its people, to
respect their rights and liberties and
above all to uphold and obey that
country's laws.

The various idealogies of the refugees - has not been
a problem for Australia in the past.
Migrants were required to have
an overriding commitment to Australia.
Their different experiences,
their diverse backgrounds and cultures,
have all served to enrich
that shared commmitment.

I don't see why this should not continue.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 26 June 2008 10:41:24 AM
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Hi foxy

do you not see potential problems in the story link?

and this one?

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23922968-5010800,00.html

There is an interesting quote of an Indonesian man toward the lower part of the page about 'Not needing wifes permission'......

but.. national socialism.. u don't see problems there either?
Posted by Polycarp, Thursday, 26 June 2008 1:55:56 PM
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Dear Polycarp,

I did look up your first website:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/06/25/2285395,htm
"Islamic Leaders Call For Recognition of Polygamous Marriages."

And I admit that I was not too concerned because and I quote from
the article:

"Attorney-General Robert McLelland is standing firm on the issue,
saying the practice is against the law."

"There is absolutely no way that the Government will be recognising polygamist relationships," Mr McLelland said. "They are unlawful and will remain as such."

Therefore I didn't see a problem. If you break our laws, you're going to be punished. That's it. End of problem. Polygamy is not allowed
in Australia. If you don't like it - migrate to a country that allows it - or suffer the consequences of breaking our laws.

The second website you gave I couldn't access - could you give me
the numbers again or the subject matter so I could google it.
Thanks.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 26 June 2008 3:16:00 PM
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Polycarp in no way bigotry just fact I have never once heard Trad say something I agreed with.
While I may well be wrong, we all are sometimes I doubt he believes some things he has said.
And I do not think he speaks for most Muslims in this country.
May I ask you this? given refugee migration is based on giving a new start to some have you any problem with us reviewing who should come to stay?
I have no regard for racism, even when its some migrants who now live here against us but some we surely must not let come.
Not all from a group but those who may well be Nazis, or say Robert Mugabe's followers after the eventual fall of that dictatorship should we let them come?
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 26 June 2008 5:48:57 PM
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