o sung wu I need to come back to the thread to answer your post.
First your words are true in you an ex cop I think we can trust.
Ruddkill speaks in a way that concerns me too, yet his her story could be true, down deep unless you served in a country town you too must know that.
It also could be a lie every crim in the world charges police falsely.
We however live in the real world police do bash criminals , and sometimes Innocent people, gee surely you know that?
Right now nightly news in full of Victoria's police force story's gut turning story's of police covering up for another under investigation for murder.
It is true good police suffer from actions of bad but hiding our head in the sands will change nothing.
Ruddkills story has the smell of truth about it, he/she may have committed a crime but it is likely so too did his bashers and those who thought it funny.

o sung wu,
Good morning O Sung Wu.
Where did you say you were a cop. Was it here in Australia?

I agree there are some good cops but I have never heard of one so naive that they didnt know what does goes on with other partners.- ever
The only time thats ever happend basically and rarely ASIK a bloke is singled out as a dog as its termed and mostly given station work.

That means he cant be trusted not to dob a mate or give a partner up. Most times they stitch that persopn with something minnor right in the early stages -or make life so miserable they leave of their own accord.

Its low mentalty but the force is like most groups that work in numbers.
Now I am not saying as I said at the top there are not some good straight coppers about.
I am just curious as to where you served your time as a police officer.'
Did You know Rodger Rogerson or Mic Dury for example?
What about Rodger Delavera

G'day BELLY & P.A.L.E.I.F....

In was with NSWPOL, a bit over twenty eight years. Accordingly, you can both be absolutely assured that I'm neither naive nor a wilting violet, apropos understanding police culture or behaviour, both good and bad.

It's NEVER been denied that on occasions some coppers have behaved quite badly, and in fact criminally, as evidenced by various media and judicial attention.

I do know of Roger and Mick, though not personally. Interestingly, Roger enjoyed a colossal reputation both in terms of bravery and clear-up rate of some extremely difficult files. Apparently, he hit a hurdle, and the rest is history, as they say.

The business of community policing does involve violence unfortunately. Often perpetuated as a result of police attempting to place an offender into custody. Particularly, in matters of Domestic Violence (probably one of the most difficult areas of policing, in my opinion).

I often think what the critics and fault-finders of the policing industry would do ? If they had to deal with the many many incidences and frequencies of extreme violence that police members often have to face, daily ? Very easy to cast aspersions on police conduct, from the comfort of an armchair. Quite a different matter when YOU are the 'Johnny on the spot', believe me !

I'll say it again...the large majority of police members discharge their duty in a lawful and conscientious manner, and sometimes STILL criticized for their efforts! It's got me 'buggered' I must say ?

O sung wu

Your account fits in with my more limited experience. There will always be a minority who are corruptible, no matter what constraints are in place - and that can be said about any organisation.

However, police are in contact with people who would make our "armchair critics" pee themselves if they ever left the comfort of their homes and encountered these people. The image of policing is so over romantised, that when we hear of real police behaving with normal human reactions we start finger pointing. That there isn't more corruption is amazing - the temptations are huge.

Most of my work with police has been positive and I haven't hesitated to trust when I have had need myself.

Never ever peed my self in fear in my life and believe me I too know the types our cops have to handle.
But lets be fair dinkum, we know about the crooked cops all of us do.
Two days ago along with a couple of ham radio operators I delivered and installed a second hand PC for a bloke who needs it.
We looked at this thread just showing him what he could do.
A bit shy yet but maybe we will hear from him one day.
He drank a lot too much in his yesterdays, not now but told of being bashed and have police demand taxi fare, his wallet from him.
The thing is its only some but it is true.
A cop if he is your mate, and I have a few who are will tell you about the not so good.
The best thing you can ever do for a mate in the job is never ask a favor just because he is a cop, never use a mate just be happy to be a mate.
I think Rodger caught a lot of criminals half of what they say about him would be lies we all know that but if only half of it is true I rest my case some copers are corrupt.

Good evening to you FRACTELLE...

Your summation is both quite realistic and well balanced. You're absolutely correct to assert that bad behaviour, corrupt and illegal
conduct, permeates and pervades (often unchecked) throughout ALL industries, organisations, and institutions since time in memorial.

Hi BELLY...

I agree with some of your statements. I suppose, just about any individual can cite an incident where unsavoury conduct by a police member or members has allegedly occurred. Some of those matters alluded to, are absolute myth, in fact scurrilous rubbish...however
regrettably, some are absolute fact !

The telling and re-telling of an exciting tale involving the coppers getting/or giving some bloke a bit of 'biff' livens up a dull evening, particularly if there's a bit of 'piss' on board ! Often the real truth is lost in the mists of inebriation ?!

As I've said...I'm buggered if I know !