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A Culling Bloody Shame

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Hi again, all

Evolution and Belly, thanks for the graphic description. Obviously accidents can happen, but you must know as well as I do that there is a lot of driving without proper care and attention on bush roads where it is known that these animals are prevalent at dusk. Remember too, that as we take over more and more the habitats of wildlife they will enroach further towards urban areas. With all the dusk and night driving I do, and have done for years, I have yet to hit one though (or be attacked by one)

Yabby, I might have missed something about the statistics being 600% out, but I'm sure you will clarify that. I also can't recall using the term "chunks of flesh" - I may have done so, and if so I'm sure you will correct me.

Perhaps you could favour us with exactly how YOU would describe the mulesing "procedure" (it shouldn't really be called that because it can be done by any idiot using whatever happens to be handy, sterile or not, and there is no analgesia or anaesthesia).

Cheers
Nicky
Posted by Nicky, Saturday, 24 May 2008 7:13:38 PM
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Nicky. Yes I hear what you are saying and you must of heard my comments on overpopulation. I support you in that point. But even you must understand that just one person is one to many.( contradiction in terms) Are little sardine world is putting pressure on everything and it seems that i am the only one that is seeing the magnitude of the situation.

Well that's good you have not experienced a close in-counter but many have, including me. Trust me! Experiences changes prospectives.

Let me tell you another real life story. Driving along at sixty Km,s right at the dawn period, a mob of 15 or more just bounded strait in front of me. Two hit the front guard of the car and one landed on the bonnet, lost grip on the paint work and slid off and jumped away.

I wonder what would of been the out-come at a hundred Km,s.
I maybe typing from a wheelchair right now.( or worse )

Its a rock and a hard place.

Please think about it.

All the best.

EVO
Posted by evolution, Saturday, 24 May 2008 8:23:33 PM
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Hi again all

Evolution, you won't get any argument from me about over-population. This is my personal view only, but I think a large chunk of foreign aid should come in the form of birth control by whatever means. The "carbon footprint" we are leaving for future generations (to which I haven't contributed, but I must admit that was for selfish reasons at the time) is scary.

You're right, I haven't experienced a "close encounter" such as you describe with a large kangaroo (or group of same), but one bush road I travel at dusk twice weekly is heavily populated with wallabies (who are, I recognize, a quite different matter). I'm so frightened of hitting one that I drive at about 40klm/hour, which probably renders my alarms useless (must be why they don't seem to bother the animals too much! I just stop for them, but I am endlessly thankful that I have yet to hit anything).

I do take your point about some of the horrific injuries than can, and probably are, caused, but I guess this is digressing a bit from the matter of the cull. I understand that kangaroos implement their own sort of population control (nature being fairly brutal in some cases) with some joeys being abandoned by their mothers to starve (someone more knowledgeable about this might like to expand on it for me).

Thanks for your input - it has given me more to think about.

Cheers
Nicky
PS Why "even me"? Have you been listening to Yabby or am I being paranoid?
Posted by Nicky, Saturday, 24 May 2008 11:38:52 PM
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Ah there you are Nicky

Apparently trees are the main objects that rural drivers collide with.

Perhaps you can enlighten me. My 2007 archives contained a paper which advised that during 2005, Australian drivers hit 3,500 sheep and 800 cows and horses.

It also advised that only 32% of claims for car damage by animals was attributed to kangaroos.

Do you know if there were any human fatalities for that year?

Toodle pip.
Posted by dickie, Saturday, 24 May 2008 11:54:32 PM
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Dickie! I didnt report mine, your numbers means nothing.

Here, fishy, fishy, fishy.

Sorry! I am needing some sleep.

All the best.

EVO
Posted by evolution, Sunday, 25 May 2008 2:24:53 AM
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I do not live in the outback, just 40 klm from the sea in a near coastal village but we have roos.
Roos do charge out in front of the safest driven car or truck, it is no fun getting one out from between dual wheels and I have done it often.
Truck drivers do not charge over them they stink and get a freshly cleaned truck very dirty.
Trying to blame drivers or even say it is not true devalues every claim you make.
No intent to be rude it is the good well mannered thread Nicky spoke of but roo do not read road rules.
Big old man roos thrown out of the mob sit right on the highway edge and do die as evo said no driver could avoid them.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 25 May 2008 7:25:23 AM
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