BOAZ>"I won't add more, but it just goes on and on, one thing leading to another. I don't see any other way ahead than simply for competing forces and groups in society to just 'slug it out' at the Ballot Box, because other than this we would either have a Theocracy or a Secular Totalitarian state.. no ?"

There are other ways, BOAZ. It's about keeping totalitarianism and theocracy out of politics, by living according to your private beliefs and not forcing them onto others who disagree with you and believe otherwise (and conversley, they extend you the same courtesy). There are general guiding rules but it works (and it's based on reason, logic). For example, if you disagree with abortion. You never seek abortion. If you disbelieve in divorce, you do not divorce.

Wow.

>>if I thought that 'enough people' looked down on mixed marriages I probably would not have married her. Practical answer. I don't think it would have been fair to the children.<<

That says more about you and your attitude towards women - all women - than you have the mental capacity to understand, Boaz.

"Possible wife? Let's take a look. Can cook? Check. Looks ok in daylight? Check. Of childbearing age? Check. Christian? Check. Colour? Oh dear, the neighbours wouldn't approve, better look for another one.

How about this one... let's take a look..."

Wow. And then there's the comeback.

>>THINK! for once in your life. When a man or a woman contemplates marriage, there are a whole range of issues, both practical and long term which should be considered. I don't know how in the wide world you get 'dissing' my wife out of that?<<

I believe you. I really do.

You have absolutely no idea.

Wow.

David, when others put your kids down because of something which your kids were born with and which caused no harm to others did you feel the injustice of that? Did you see the wrong? Was the problem with your kids or with those who thought they needed to put your kids down?

Kids sometimes do stuff like that. The greater crime comes when adults behave in the same way. Adult fundy christains and others who say the vilest things about homosexuals (and advocate for legal sanctions against homosexuals). Adults who behave in a worse manner than those kids because they act as adults with a greater ability to understand the harm they do and because they seek significant real world harm to those others.

R0bert

Aah..Vanilla and Pericles... don't you just love it when you think you have suddenly found some chink in my armor which you can then use to lift yourselves up to that secular higher moral ground, and give me a serve :)

Well.. you attack me from a completely irrelevant perpsective, because you dear folks simply don't have a clue about my own history, or the situation I was in, no, rather you extrapoloate from some pseudo romanticism of your own making, and then do the very thing which Steel said we must not do 'impose' your view on my own situation.

and then.. you are incredulous about me expressing some practical issues regarding what a responsible person thinks about when contemplating if a marriage will 'work' under the pressures of life, I guess the 29 yrs we have been together now mean nothing?

I won't dignify the things you raised any further, because the topic is...not 'me' but Prostution, Race, and Politics. (just in case you have forgotten.)

But..right now must away to some exercise.. will pick up on this later.
cheers.

BD
I "sounded there like a vulture just salivating and waiting for the poor old buffalo to die so you can jump on it and begin tearing out his entrails."?

Because I commented on a post? Wow! And, for future reference, just what is the sound of a salivating vulture waiting etc. etc.? Anything like the sound of one hand clapping?

No. I am not a "pseudo-romantic". And yes, also did the pre- I Do considerations about someone who just happened not to be of the same race as I. Not just a mild-coffee coloured someone, mind you. I'm talking really black, here. You know? The kind whose daughter might even have had one of those nasty wide noses which would, of course, be unthinkable if "other people" didn't like it.

But, as you said, those are the things a really responsible man has to consider. And me, being just a fluffy little gal, plum forgot to factor in what "other people" thought. (Hang on - so did he. Perhaps he wasn't being too responsible, huh?)

Someone else pointed out that yep - its sad but true that you do not, nor probably ever will, see how what you posted was could be construed as dissing your wife. As to what relevance the fact that you've been together 29 years now has? Simply means that you found a way to justify this aspect at least of your racist views for that long.

Btw: "This thread is not about me"? The time to consider that was when Robert asked the question. Could have told him to rack off and that you were not prepared to talk about your feelings towards your wife on a public forum. But you chose another course. Now take responsibility.

Vanilla:

I debated the conundrum with which BD presented me. But, if I was only going to be given the chance to think once in my life I decided to save it for something a little more profound - like whether 42 or 46 is actually the meaning of Life, the Universe and Everything.

Vanilla and Romany

"Oh, and Romany, yes, I can only back up the previous request, please, THINK! FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE! As it stands, Boazy is running intellectual rings around you. Can't you see that selling out the woman you claim to love above all other women simply because the neighbours are a bit sniffy about the match is no reflection on the quality or otherwise of that love? Frankly, your inability to grasp this simple point baffles both Boazy and myself."

"I debated the conundrum with which BD presented me. But, if I was only going to be given the chance to think once in my life I decided to save it for something a little more profound - like whether 42 or 46 is actually the meaning of Life, the Universe and Everything."

Thank you both for this brilliant bit of repartee. It's little gems like these that make even wading through BD's waffle worth the effort! I couldn't work out the 42 and 46 reference though. Was it random or were you referring to something I've missed along the way? Just curious.

BD

"But..right now must away to some exercise.. will pick up on this later."

P-l-e-a-s-e don't bring back any more of the lycra stories or the tantalising toilet conversations you've regaled us with recently. Unfortunately they only tell us more about you than most of us want to know.