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A United Harmonious Australia of Tomorrow

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People always think of racism as being about one ethnic group of people looking down on another. But there's another side of the story - all those people looking back up.

Racism isn't just about one group dominating another, it's about all the groups, looking at each other as if they were different.

If you feel oppressed by racism from another ethnic group, do you blame that group, or just the individuals who are oppressing you. If you blame the group then you are being just as racist as your oppressors. Morally, you are just as offensive, you just seem less so because you're insufficiently powerful to inflict your own oppression.

A little hypothetical:

Say you meet a man who is homeless (lets say he's also an aborigine) so you give him $100 to get on his feet, or at least see him through. A week later you see him on the street again, so you give him another $100. Then again the next week, and the one after that until soon you are doing it every week.

A year later, you realise there's another homeless guy (this time with a white/european background). So you decide to give both the homeless guys an equal share of the $100 you give out every week.

Watch out, in doing so, you become a racist because you've chosen to disadvantage a black man (take away $50 of his support) in order to advantage a white man!

This is what happened to One Nation: It came up with a policy platform that impoverished and disadvantaged people, black, white, or green ought to get the same support. For this they were branded racist. One Nation could have been called callous, unsympathetic, simplistic, and ignorant, but is certainly wasn't racist.

The situation we now face is that any time a governement GIVES a benefit to a minority, any government can be accused of racism for simply rethinking whether it stops giving. This is an outrage and totally abhorrent to good democratic government.
Posted by Kalin, Sunday, 22 October 2006 9:06:10 PM
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KAHLIN, an outrageous argument !!
Targeted Affirmative Action similar to what has happened in America will get us into the White HOUSE .
And what is wrong with that .?.
Posted by kartiya jim, Sunday, 22 October 2006 10:09:20 PM
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My apologies, to finish .... just in case you think I'm racist, the Affirmative Action programmes to be for all disadvantaged Australians .Cheers.
Posted by kartiya jim, Sunday, 22 October 2006 10:14:24 PM
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C.J. always a unique perspective :)

Mate.... maybe you didn't read Nosy-ts post..

He was speaking about WAR against the government, not self defense between groups. I don't take his post as a threat from him, but as a wake up call for all of us.

Sedition is to remove the government by force.
My posts are about self defense and they will usually include the word 'lawful' just in case you had not noticed. Thats the diff... I don't need 'help'. Correction.. I do, we all do, in fact, I need yours as well as (I feel) you need mine, to walk together down that pathway of better understanding through disagreement.

I make my own contacts to the AFP and ASIO on a number of issues and my company has been involved in anti terrorism projects.

Back to the topic..... Kartiya.. your mild rebuke is welcome. It's ok. Nothing to fear here.

But we should avoid the term get 'us' in the white house :) that suggests 'us' and 'them'.....and eliminating us/them is the point of my article. For C.J.s benefit... it applies also to the segments of society which are currently poles apart and needing to consider such things as defense against the other.
cheers
Posted by BOAZ_David, Sunday, 22 October 2006 10:26:00 PM
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Calling Pericles..... *Cooeeee*.... u usually have some insights about this kind of thing.....

Any comment ?
Posted by BOAZ_David, Monday, 23 October 2006 7:45:22 AM
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Boaz..

A while back you said to rainier, whom is a very articulate and balanced poster, that instead of referring to whites as being the dominant culture that we should refer to them as the predominant culture, you were saying that all Australians could come under this banner thereby erasing the black/white label and all become one race.

My point is why cant we still retain our own identity and still part of the same Australian community..It sounds like your trying to breed the 'black' out of the black man.That for him to be acceptable he must not retain any of his past to fit in..is this not promoting rascism..that you can only be part of mainstream if you accept mainstream values..

Can mainstream not meet the black man 1/way?Why is that so hard..
The black man has a lot offer that the white man is so desperately needs to learn..for heavens sake..just look at the way the 'whiteys' have comprehensively ruined our climate and our waterways our soils and on it goes...he inherited a pristine land after 60,000 yrs of previous black occupation..so YOU tell me who the REAL Australian is Mr Boaz_David?..man who has no respect for his 'house' doesnt deserve one..he has displayed the greatest disrespect towards his home and the pple who looked after it for the longest time and then he says..hey come join my club? Thats funny.

I believe we need to learn mutual respect..but so far the pendulum on this issue has been to far in favour of whites..while we have threads such as this..mutual repspect is a long way off..

Kartiya you need to get your priorities in order..cant be a little bit pregnant.

Sharkfin..I usually read your posts with interest...not this time.
Posted by taurus29, Monday, 23 October 2006 10:23:08 AM
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