Hi Bugsy (I forgot.. he also learned French)

well.. as I understand it, he was in fact 'brought up' in a non conformist Christian home.
He records his coversion at age 15.

He was rejected by Oxford as a student, due to his 'non conformity' background, though later his book on logic became the standard text as mentioned in the previous post.

The 'crowd' in which Isaac moved are the forebears of both the "Open" Brethren and also the Exclusives. Historically they were a reaction to the dry formalism and liturgical strictness of the Anglican Church.

Sadly, like many movements which have pure beginnings, they can become entrenched in their own 'ruts' or.. division based on strong personalities, dress codes, worship methods, hymn choice. Such is life.

Easter..

FRIDAY ...the Tragedy and dissappointment for the depressed disciples.

"But we SAW Him change water into wine.. we SAW him heal the blind, the lame.. the leprous.. we REALLY thought he was going to change the world..........now..look at him.. dead on that cross" aaah..but that, -was 'Friday' :)
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(Sunday's a comin)

How can a man brought up in a Christian home be 'converted' to Christinity at 15?

Wow, 7 pages of nothing. Someone delete the thread. Pete starts a topic and picks and chooses at what he addresses.

Bugsy.. fair question.

Being brought up in a Christian home simply provides a faith framework.. an environment, it does not guarantee a child will embrace that faith.

Being Christian..is, as Jesus said "Born again".. from the inside out... the heart.. not just the mind.

There is a real change. I know that there are things I just didn't think twice about b4 I came to the Lord.. but that soon changed, and since that opening of my heart to Him.. the desire to do wrong has dissappeared. I guess I just didn't see a lot of things were wrong b4 that.. The biggest challenge and temptation is those things which 'seem so right cos they feel so good'... as the song goes.

I had the view "If I can get away with it.. whats the worry"...

Christ touches is at the deepest level of our being. Its like that 'perfect love' that all of us long for. We will never find it in a human being.. but we can find it in our Creator.

Like trying to describe the Wind.. cant see it... only the result of it.

The Atheist Foundation of Australia Inc received this comment on our Easter media release from a member and thought I'd share it with you all.

Peter

"Ah, but you forget - this god wasn't just sacrificing a man - somehow the god and the man were the same person (at the same time as the god being the man's father - and both of them being the same person as their even more invisible spirit) and so he was sacrificing his son - and himself - and his spirit - at the same time, whilst thinking he had deserted himself and not knowing his own plans for raising himself three days later before being possessed by himself and ascending to sit on his own right hand side . It all makes sense now - doesn't it??"

Rod

StG; you don’t get why I care if irrationality and nonsense rules – that’s because you are out of touch with reality.

Fractelle, forgive me for not thanking you for the link to George Carlin... He’s wonderful – excruciatingly funny as only the truth can be. You ask why I don’t lighten up and join other atheist discussions like yours... sorry... I didn't realise you had such discussions, and also didn't realise I was forcing my terms on you. I still have no idea what that means.
Another amusing link http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=x45EOzMJA5o

Romany, I am delighted you have so many ‘mates’ from such diverse theological and philosophical perspectives – ten gold stars for your liberality. You write; “...you often appear to be as zealous about spreading your word as christians are about theirs.” Often? This is my first post! As for objecting to christians simply because I think they are wrong – I don’t give a tinker’s cuss what they believe – as long as they don’t get billions of dollars of tax breaks, access to young children’s minds, and any influence on law-making. As a taxpayer, I also object to the millions of dollars of public money paying for the pope’s visit. I should have realised that the morality of scapegoating and human sacrifice would be incomprehensible to a Christian.

People Against Live Exports... Thanks for your comments. I am as sickened by the way we treat animals as by child indoctrination with supernatural nonsense. Most commercially produced animal products in Australia cause more cruelty to the animals than Japanese whalers do to their prey. Thanks for the link.

STG... I have responded to all relevant posts [I’m not that fond of chocolate] – you don’t respond to mine, probably because you have no idea what I’m writing about.

Peter