Jack the Holocaust Denier: "What is the difference between your 'decent education' and mine?"

One obvious difference is that I am capable of assessing the quality and veracity of information, while you are not. I'd also hypothesise that, while I've been the beneficiary of tertiary education at postgraduate level, you haven't.

If my hypothesis is true, these factors are likely to be related.

Foxy,

I entirely agree with you.

A Nazi or Nazi sympathiser is, rightly, regarded with revulsion. I am at a loss to know why the same does not apply to Soviet Communist and their sympathisers.

Those who sought to deny, explain away or minimise Stalin's and Mao's holocausts should be treated with the same derision "Jack the sad" and his ilk.

All our children have read The Gulag Archipelago.

The relationship between the Western leftie "intellectuals" and Soviet Communism is something that deserves much greater analysis. The lessons to be learned from examining the behaviour of the Soviet era left have obvious implications for today. It is the intellectual descendants of the Soviet era lefties who seek to deny, explain away or minimise the horrors of Islam.

Vanilla, when you made out my source to be a UFO believer (which may or may not exist), you deliberately, again, ignored that the main source was Dr. Franciszek Piper. If that's not putting your head in the sand, nothing else comes close.
I don't mind ridicule (sticks and stones etc) but I don't see how it can be a substitute for reasoned argument. To counter claims that you don't agree with by calling someone a dolt or knuckledragger only looks smart or full of wit to those who agree with the counter-claimer.
I'm sorry that I can't come up to your expectations of 'sensible'. I suppose that's because I don't watch as much telly as you do.

CJ, I have some tertiary education (in a realistic practical subject) but not post-grad as you appear to allude to having. What was your subject - one of the many stupid courses that are springing up so that anyone can 'do UNI'?. It appears that you think this makes you some kind of superior know-all, lording it over the knuckledraggers. Then again, out in the bush an educated bumpkin will have delusions of grandeur.
Because I assessed information and came away with the opposite conclusion doesn't make me wrong and you right. Only ignorance and/or arrogance would lead to your conclusion. But what else should I expect from someone so up himself that he wrote 'I am capable of assessing the quality and veracity of information, while you are not'?
Aside from your formal education, have you ever experienced the so-called education of life? You wouldn't last ten minutes in certain situations.

"You wouldn't last ten minutes in certain situations."

Like standing in front of you Jack?

I believe that what CJ is referring to is your selective use of evidence which leads to your "alternative conclusions". You don't look at the "same evidence" at all, you are being selective to what fits into your bias. And it's obvious.

For the record, Security Officer Certificate I at TAFE is not generally what is considered an appropriate "tertiary qualification" for determining the quality and veracity of historical sources.

Education of life, LOL. Prison guard knuckledragger.

Jack: "I'm sorry that I can't come up to your expectations of 'sensible'. I suppose that's because I don't watch as much telly as you do."

I recommend House. He's good at solving puzzles, plus he's dishy.

Much as it pains I have to side with "Jack the sad" on one issue.

A university education is no guarantee of the ability to think rationally. Let is not forget all those university educated "intellectuals" who adored Stalin, Mao and Ho Chi Minh.

Many university educated people in Germany supported Hitler and his Nazis. Among them were two Nobel-prize-winning physicists, Philipp Lenard and Johannes Stark.

In 2004 George Bush got a majority of votes from those with college degrees.

Ken Ham, the founder of the "Creation Museum" has a science degree from Queensland University.

Here is a quote from the works of Luce Irigaray, much beloved by university educated feminist intellectuals.

"Is E=mc squared a sexed equation? Perhaps it is. Let us make the hypothesis that it is insofar as it privileges the speed of light over other speeds that are vitally necessary to us. What seems to me to indicate the possible sexed nature of the equation is not directly its uses by nuclear weapons, rather it is having privileged what goes the fastest."

Only someone with a university education could write tripe like that. Only someone with a university education could revere the author as a great philosopher.

Ken Ham is not Australia's only contribution to the world of university educated idiots. This from Elspeth Probyn, Professor of "Gender Studies" at University of Sydney.

"The mouth machine registers experiences and then articulates them -- utters them. In eating we may munch into whole chains of previously established connotations, just as we may disrupt them.

"For instance, an email arrives, leaving traces of its rhizomatic passage zapping from one part of the world to another, and then to me.

'Unsolicited, it sets out a statement from a Dr Johannes Van Vugt, in San Francisco, who on October 11, 1999, National Coming Out Day in the US, began an ongoing 'Fast for Equal Rights for persons who are gay, lesbian and other sexual orientation minorities'."

Some of the sharpest thinkers I know have no tertiary education. However Jack the sad is not among those.