Gibo,
1. Give us one current example of a demon acting totally independently of the evil imagination of man.

Both Jesus, Paul and James identify the sinful behaviour in the world as man's totally responsiblity and man being held accountable.

2. Give us one example to the contrary.

3. Give us one example from the OT of an evil spirit acting outside the mind of a human. The OT attributes all sin to the immagination of sinful man.

The nature of the sinful mind is evil and can influence peers unsuspectingly in the same behaviour, but is is not transmitted by the entry of a spirit being. Such a view may have been held by some ancient communities. But a seed of an idea can flourish in the mind to produce evil fruit. That is the very nature of the human mind. For instance depression is transmitted by company with the depressed, excitment is transmitted by company with the excited. The state may be spiritual but not transmitted by a spirit being.

Tell one person there is no accounting for his behaviour and that may relese his immagination to do all sorts of dispicable things.

Heya CJ Morgan

Are you a Mad Magazine fan?

Well I'm having deja vu 'Spy VS Spy' while reading 'Gibo VS Philo'.

This is hilarious.

Yep, no doubt about it, the bible is open to any and all interpretations.

:-D

Quite so, Fractelle! Spy vs Spy - now that takes me back...

But isn't it nice that they can deal with their demons in public?

I dunno... whilst I'm a pretty secular sort, what Philo's saying here seems to be a pretty reasonable interpretation.

Seeing as he is a devoted Christian I think he's more likely to be able to perhaps make Gibo see that his beliefs aren't actually displayed in the real world.
I'd hope he could perhaps show Gibo that some of his beliefs, strictly speaking, don't really fall under the category of 'Christian.'

TRTL

I do concede that Philo has been quite reasonable HERE. But, too good an opportunity, how often is that one christian actually takes to task another. I guess it underscores the title of your thread. So hey, success!!

However, don't get Philo started on evolution, stem cell research, homosexuality, female reproductive rights - where is the christian who will pull him up then?

Fractelle. Im not fighting with Philo, one christian against another. I suspect Philo is more New Age than anything else with a bit of Bible knowledge thrown in. I found him generally unteachable because he doesnt listen. I told him my life experience had involved contact and attacks from dark powers. My knowledge also includes testimonies from many other christian brothers and sisters on the demons they have had contact with and much learning on the subject from Gods Word, which I totally believe is accurate in its evil spirit descriptions, and from other christian literature. If he wants to know about demons...he should do his own Bible research. But dont urinate on my life knowledge. I happily asked The Lord to show him the truth of demons, so he could get a rounder knowledge. TRTL and CJ Morgan are just scally-wags and stirrers who mock many things. Recalcitrants.