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Brenden Nelson and the Conservatives

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Howards Government was the worst because and not limited to-
Resource based Economic growth not managed or captured by Howard.
Climate change over the tipping point now was forecast before Howard came to office, Howard did nothing to aleviate the effects of Climate Change.
Wasted time debating over saying Sorry to the stolen generation
over a decade ago, costs to tax payers.
Iraq war, enough said.
Spending in marginal electorates at the expense of the rest of Australia.
The devolvement of services which in turn have createsd quality gaps, inflation and market failures.
The destruction of Australias resource base and technology base.
Massive hidden unemployment , the growth of the working poor , a matrix of anti-family policies and continual increase in real taxation.

Howards goons are the same members in the Liberal Party now. The Rudd Government will not bring them to account because Labour is also0 an out dated 20th Century party as much as the Liberals are.

Justice is in the hands of voters, let the liberals fall to oblivion.
Posted by West, Monday, 10 March 2008 4:27:34 PM
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Come West I rejoice in short bottoms defeat but Nazi? well if that is what you think.
Turn right then left has a handle on it NSW suffered because it still does not have an opposition.
In truth if I wanted a stronger conservative movement I would keep Brendan for 8 more months.
While quietly opening up every branch in NSW then Australia to new members not just the very right.
Maybe [in my view] the unlovable salesman for workchoices could move to the NSW house as leader.
Costello, Vaile, and a few more could best serve by leaving their seats in young strong hands, if they can win by elections.
It will be late in the term after next before conservatives are any chance.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 10 March 2008 4:47:54 PM
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I would have thought JWH is in no deeper shot now than he was in the mid '80's- time yet for resurrection?

I can imagine life under Keveryman after six years when all we recalcitrants have been counselled by the great man himself, and we will all be thinking correctly.

Hail Dr. Death and the ambulance chaser!
Posted by palimpsest, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 6:39:01 PM
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Belly I kid you not , Howard imitated Hitler. The Historical and policy syntax. Even Tony Abbots tantrum in Parliment today was ironically in the image of an old Brown Shirt Queen after the Furher had departed. If reviewed it is not suprising, the conservative movement since the 1930's is modelled on Hitlers simpleton and contradictory ideals and idea's. Nelson is probably hoping the Liberals will raise from the ashes as the Nazis did in the early thirties after crushing defeats , but of course Howard will have to become party leader again. Already within months the Liberal Party seem out dated , refugees from the past , out of place in Australia. Nelson should save face and disband the Liberal Party , or he could take it out on the National Party and destroy the Nationals by amalgamation, then he can write in his memoirs that the destruction of the Liberal Party is the fault of the Nationals.

In the meantime we tax payers must waste hard earned money while they complain about working Fridays.
Posted by West, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 7:20:58 PM
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TRTL: "I've gotta disagree there CJ. As glad as I am that the Howard Government has been toppled, nothing makes a government slide more quickly than an incompetent opposition that doesn't know how to hold their opponents to account."

Of course you're quite correct - I was just relishing the moment and being frivolous. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a halfway competent Opposition in the country. While I quite enthusiastically prefer Rudd to Howard, I'm not a Labor voter.

West - while I agree with your general sentiments, I think you're overdoing it a bit. Howard was an obnoxious rodent who did much lasting damage, but he wasn't anything like a Nazi. Except perhaps his construction of a gulag of concentration camp/detention centres around the country and region... nah.

They're being quietly decommissioned anyway, aren't they? And there weren't very many actual deaths.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 8:00:02 PM
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West, you've reached new heights of lunacy with your attempts to identify Howard with Hitler.

Keating in style at least is the closest thing to a fascist in Oz politics in 30 years with his angry man persona and his intolerance of opposing views.

Not just over the top but all the way up to eleven buddy.

For the undemocratic, just witness Rudds little Friday fiasco- a parliament where the government is not answerable to the opposition, the parliament and the australian people for one day in every five. Now that had shades of fascism about it. Maybe Kevin counselled himself on this one?

Oz might yet find itself not ready to re-elect a Queensland PM.
Posted by palimpsest, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 8:39:50 PM
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