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GOODBYE - FAREWELL - AUF WIEDERSEHEN - SO LONG...

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I just wanted to say that was a lovely post and I wish you well in your efforts. We are working on a similar matter but it was in the persons home she was abused all her life. Your correct nobody really wants to know or cares. However the victim has now an oportunity to perhaps be heard and I hope she finally gets some justice after years of battling to be heard. I was wondering if you had experienced the old- But you dont have ant witnesses or evidence reply.
I mean for God sake these abusers of kids dont advertsise now do they.
Whats wrong with the victims evidence?

Again All the very best and we have a email address on our site if we can help in anyway pls dont hestite.

We are rather good at calling for Royal Comms- If thats any help.
Cheers.
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Sunday, 6 April 2008 7:43:10 AM
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Foxy:
Great to hear that you have "conquered" your own particular Everest (and I say that in the most positive way!).
I like everyone else, look forward to your continuing posts and wish you a long and continuing healthy life!

Ginx:
You do NOT owe me any apology! My particular problem at the time was neglible compared to Foxy!
I have had my left Total Hip Replacement and am now in the third week of recovery and am walking around reasonably well unaided. The funny part was that most of the pain was presenting in the left knee joint, but apparently was simply transmitted pain from a worn-out left hip joint,....now I have very little pain in the hip-joint and a simple stiffness in the knee, (as a result of hobbling around on it for years), which will no doubt improve with time!
I was in Hospital for only 5 days and would suggest strongly that anyone facing this sort of operation should feel no apprehension at all, as I handled it well, despite three days of intensive test procedure due to having a few medical issues,and was unable to take any form of pain relief before, during and after the procedure,( I have taken two Paracetomol 4 times daily ) I suffered a pain level of only 2 (on a scale of 1 to 10), had virtually no ill-effects due to undergoing an Epidural anasthetic procedure, thus even after having a bed booked in the ICU Ward, spent only 2 hours in Recovery before being returned to my Ward all bright-eyed and bushy-tailed!
I would be only too pleased to help and advise anyone facing this sort of operation in the near future, as there are a few tips to make life even easier whilst facing hospitalisation and again returning home!
After being somewhat apprehensive at the age of 69 years, which in hindsight was totally unwarranted, I found the procedure a breeze and am truly thankful for the ability and dedication of the Doctors and Nursing staff who are battling in this overburdened system of ours!
Posted by Cuphandle, Sunday, 6 April 2008 11:26:09 AM
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Thank you for your post and kind words of encouragement - it is certainly appreciated by myself and many others.
No, I wasn't abused as a child, but was alerted to the issue and extent of "child abuse whilst institutionalized" during the 1940's to 1980's quite by chance.
Any person wishing to view letters written by actual victims who were brave enough to recall the attrocities should visit Senate Enquiry into Child Abuse Victims 2004. There are over 500 letters from the "brave souls" who actually wrote and/or attended the inquiry and relived their trauma.
The Ministers who attended the Enquiry were in tears as to what they were told and heard as to the extent of abuse our children endured whilst institutionalized by these so called "cloth of God" followers.
I am unable to put in writing here what these "innocent" children endured at the hands of these criminals whilst institutionalized for years, and years, and years.
It is now 2008 four years since those "brave" victims who told their stories still seeking recourse from the Senate Enquiry Report....nothing has happened, which is why we are all seeking a Royal Commission Enquiry.
You are so right - the general public don't want to know as the issue is too gross to hear or take on board.
The Salvation Army, the catholic church and others have set up their corporations in such a way that to try to instigate legal proceedings against them is impossible as their "entity" carries no more weight than trying to commence legal proceedings against a tuck shop.
The Salvation Army, catholic churches etc in the past have issued statements of "apology" and regret to our abused children .....well gee that's a huge commitment to our innocent abused children.
Their apology means nothing to me unless it is backed up with $$$$'s and compensation.
The perpetrators get off scot free - whilst our children - now adults - are left living with a life-time legacy of abuse, trauma and rape.
Where is the justice, there is none, for our innocent abused children.
Posted by SAINTS, Sunday, 6 April 2008 12:25:47 PM
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Cuphandle - welcome back to "recovery land".

My mother had the same operation which was completely successful.

My best wishes to you for a continued and speedy recovery.
Posted by SAINTS, Sunday, 6 April 2008 12:35:16 PM
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SAINTS; I am writing here again only because of your latest comments. It was I feel inappropriate for me to respond before. It was never meant as any kind of diminishment of the issue of the abuse of children.

ANY child in ANY land on this earth. No other subject consumes me more than this one.

South Australia has just completed an inquiry into the abuse of children in institutionalized care. Former Supreme Court Justice Ted Mullighan conducted this inquiry over a period of many months. He is widely credited with conducting the inquiry with honour and integrity;- and it has changed him. He has listened to more cases of abuse and even deaths...., in these months than we will ever learn of in our entire lives.

There IS NO allegation. judges, politicians, lawyers, police officers, magistrates (one is already in prison for a long time), businessmen, 'personalities'...; all of these vermin WERE 'fed' children for private 'parties' up to the late 90's...(I wonder...?).

PROOF. They have to have indisputable proof;- because they know who these people are! It is touted that arrests are to be made, but the infamous SA. 'Family' were never brought to justice (from the same group), with the exception of bevan spencer von einem (I refuse to credit him using uppercase),- who has maintained his silence.

These now adults, have given evidence of being driven from the 'Homes' and delivered to wealthy homes in some of SA's top suburbs. Some children never survived...

As I live and breathe;- if arrests do NOT occur, then I and many others WILL question just how 'high' this goes.

NOTHING, NOTHING happened in all these years because this filth were protected.

Let us see if they still are.
Posted by Ginx, Sunday, 6 April 2008 3:09:42 PM
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Cuphandle;-glad you are up and skateboarding again!
Posted by Ginx, Sunday, 6 April 2008 3:11:04 PM
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