Belly said

Free speech yes we are free to think as we wish even say what we want but David Boaz please!
Pale replies
Hilarious,

You’ve got to love to hate this place. Soon we will have belly on his knees converting to Islam to get some good solid business sense.
Something lacking in Christian leadership.

David when will you learn that not everybody believes in your God.

There are many other beliefs and many other Gods.

The most practical of these in regards to good business sense would have to be Islam who does not separate religion from business.

Perhaps NSW being in the spot light so early in the beginning of our new Government will end up being the tool Kevin Rudd needs to see where some control and replace these tools with decent people.

Perhaps not. One thing is for sure be they Christian Muslim or or just no faith at all we need better common sense business leadership.

Belly is correct the right people in the right places are what are required.

They might be the most users unfriendly to your Christian faith but if they are Savvy as buggery then that’s what we need.
David doesn’t divert people from holding a debate over NSW ALP.
I can imagine this would be a serious subject for others in you don’t mind.
I mean we all know some people on this thread actually work within some parts of the industry as hands on err observer.
In other words why not just for once let’s listen to what Belly has to say. It’s his area after all.
Come on lets be fair. However David I do agree with you it’s the people. Too many on centerlink.... Now I am curious at the times you post.

Of course you don’t have top answer but are you on centerlink because you seem to post an awful lot throughout business ours .

“Awful” lot Where are you CJ that one was for you.:)
You can stand up now belly :)

The thing that also irks me is the lack of passion shown by Barry O'Farrel.At the last NSW election 12mnths ago they self destructed with the political assination of John Brogden ,but even he lacked passion for the job.

The body language eminating from the Liberals at the moment is that the present leadership status quo demonstrated by labor will be the order of the day.This is not good enough!How are they going to manage the State better?

At this rate,they will lose again in three yrs time and the people of NSW will be in utter despair!

It is a requirement of those who own this forum that certain sniping stop, it must be a two way effort.
NSW is not destroyed it is in trouble ,not for the first time.
The history of Australian politics is full of such as we see now.
Names of past state leaders ,from both sides come to mind one from my side followed one from the other.
Claims such as those in the first post in this thread seem more than true about both of them.
The idea Rudd can undo this crime against my state is untrue how could he? what legal mechanism exists for him to intervene?
While Morris awake at last from his slumber trys to act the part of something he has never been a leader we can not progress.
Right now, in this coming week we need six new Cabernet ministers a start to stopping the landslide next election.
But surely it is clear? we need an opposition too!

Excellent points, Belly. If the conditions for corruption remain the same there is no reason to believe that it wont continue with another government in power. That is why understanding the basis of the corruption is so important.

I would note that strict planning regulations have a strong correlation with corruption, but only where some councillors have the capacity to override the regulations. What you then get is a situation where prices are driven up by restricting supply. Councillors may then accept bribes to allow developments which are way outside the regulations, rightly arguing to the public that the need for such development was acute. High immigration increases demand and so further increases the opportunity for this corrupt practice. In essence, the corruption is driven by a restriction of the rights of landholders. Reduce the severity of the restrictions on landholders and you reduce the opportunity for corruption.

High immigration has imposed a huge infrastructure burden on the population, but it provides some very lucrative contracts. So again, this may be an instance of the public interest being put second.

not labor, precisely. not even liberals, exactly. the problem is bigger than that. it's rj.

the poitical culture in oz is better than, say, zimbabwe. but it doesn't work a lot better, and ozzies have no notion of democracy. they certainly don't connect their political handlessness with growing up in a society utterly controlled by a few hundred grifters in parliament.

you're the problem, rj. you and all the other mugs who think you can allow crooks to run your state and your nation, and not see corruption and incompetence in the running.

sorry, rj. your fairy godmother isn't going to take an interest in politics. you, and all those other mugs like belly, have got to get off your knees and establish democracy.

or you can just grin, and pretend you like being screwed.

I ventured across the border into Mexico/NSW yesterday, and it didn't seem to have been destroyed to me. Yes, there were tumbleweeds blowing down the street, and indolent hombres sitting around on street corners sipping Coronas and Tooheys under their sombreros. Cockroaches everywhere too - but what else is new? Looked much the same as last time I visited Tijuanafield ;)

Seriously, I don't think you can put the NSW malaise down to Labor - the dreaded NSW Libs had much influence in the erstwhile Rodent Federal government, and Fester has pointed out it was their immigration policies that funnelled too many immigrants in that direction. Mind you, plenty of them seem to have headed north to Godzone without creating the apparent inertia that exists south of the border.

"<<The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like.>>"

That's it! Obviously with the Mardi Gras on this weekend the good Lord's brought everything to a head. Now if everybody would just toddle along to church instead, NSW would overcome its woes quick smart!

Why didn't anybody else think of that? Oh that's right, NSW is home to Fred Nile, and look how influential he is...