Philo: "The surgeons and physicans who continually attended to this young man and his lifetime of disability will see him this week to make their acessment (sic)"

So what was the verdict from the "surgeons and physicians", Philo - is it a verifiable "miracle" or not? I'm still open to persuasion if you can provide some verifiable evidence.

I’m not sure why it matters whether or not science developed before or parallel with Christianity or even by Christians. Even if Christians were the greatest scientists, so what? Is this supposed to be evidence that God exists?

Whether the people involved in science worshiped a supernatural being or not is irrelevant because science is a secular discipline and any ‘believing’ falls outside the framework of religion. Since beliefs are not incorporated in science and science doesn’t require any world view, political view or religion, scientists can belong to a large variety of sub groups, which are independent of science.

Gz “I don't think The Theory of Evolution stands up to scrutiny at all.”
Evolution is supported by evidence but creationists are welcome to present new evidence that disproves it (finding fossils of mammals in Precambrian rocks, for example).

Science, unlike creationism, is not threatened by new evidence; it will simply change the hypothesis.

Even though there are (still) some gaps in the theory of evolution, the theory is very strong.
Creationists may believe in a God of the Gaps (and use these gaps as the places to set op their soap boxes) but science has caused the gaps to become smaller.

AJ, that analogy of atheists and cats is an excellent one.
Glad that you, as an ex-Christian, are able to shine some light on their thinking processes.

"I don't think The Theory of Evolution stands up to scrutiny at all."

Why not?

Celivia/AJ,

Two issues to consider:
(1). From non-life to existence of life.
(2). Evolution of life-forms.

The theory of evolution struggles to explain (2), but completely unable to explain (1).

If there's no life-form, then theory of evolution explains nothing !!

The theory of evolution is an essential scientific study but contrary to your thinking, to claim evidence amounts to a big leap of faith. ie. You both are mere BELIEVERS of a theory not supported by the truth.

gz
The theory of evolution does not struggle to explain evolution (2).
In case you’ve forgotten how science works: it works by first making observations, then come up with an idea to explain the observation which is the hyposesis.
Next, design experiments to test that hypothesis which usually include more observations – this is a cycle that is repeated to build up evidence for the hyposesis.
If at anytime during this process a new observation or experiment proves the hyposesis wrong, the scientist will have to come up with a new hyposesis and the process restarts. If all the experiments keep confirming the hyposesis, a theory is formed. A scientic theory is the higest status that a concept gets- as close you can get to ‘proven’ by using the methods of science.

The term ‘proof’ is actually a term of mathematics and that’s why scientists don’t use it.
The theory of evolution is called a theory because it’s supported by the evidence scientists have found so far.
Creationists are free to disprove their evidence.
Even if creationists were able to disprove evolution, there still would be no evidence that God 'did it'.

And about (1) What did God use to create Adam? A clump of dirt.
And the evidence for that claim is?

I'm not a scientist, but the theory of evolution does indeed explain how different species evolved. The clue is in the title. Why do you think it "struggles"?

As Celivia points out, so much evidence supports evolution that it is widely regarded as indisputable. If even *one* piece of evidence was proved to contradict the theory of evolution, the whole theory would have to be abandoned. This has never happened.

Evolution is relevant to abiogenesis (the study of the origin of life), but does not seek to explain it. Scientist don't yet know how life originated.

Some people — and I'm assuming you're one of them — think that if science cannot explain something (during their lifetime) then that means god must exist. I struggle to see the the validity of this theory.