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Political Correctness: For The Use Of.

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Divorce Doctor: "I would think PC gone wrong says that the item would not even make the shelves in Mosman Sydney"

Coon cheese is named after Edward William Coon, who originally created it in 1931. I'm not aware that it's unavailable anywhere in Australia.

However, there was rather a silly legal challenge to the brand name by an Aboriginal activist a couple of years back, but it rightly failed. I think that was a case of misplaced offence rather than PC though.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Thursday, 21 February 2008 12:26:33 PM
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I'm still frustrated that people who are posting here aren't *getting* Ginx's orginal point. Even if you disagree, why not tell us why, rather than pointing out how enlightened you are compared to the rest of the world.

As far as I'm concerned, the "PC brigade" is increasingly an invention of the right, a straw-restriction that negates the need for rigorous intellectual engagement.

It's not that it never happens - it most certainly does. Climate change sceptics, for example. The truth is that, whether you agree with them or not, some scientists absolutely believe that climate change is not man-made and our efforts to halt it are futile. Yet in this country, they're often demonised, as if their intent is to dismantle the entire Earth clod by clod while laughing maniacally.

I disagree with climate change sceptics, but I believe that, once we shut them out of the debate, we all suffer. Intellectually and environmentally.

The US is, as the US is wont to be, both better and worse. Again taking climate change as an example, John Christy, who was a member of the IPCC when they won the Nobel Peace Prize, said:

"My experience as a missionary teacher in Africa opened my eyes to this simple fact: Without access to energy, life is brutal and short. The uncertain impacts of global warming far in the future must be weighed against disasters at our doorsteps today. Bjorn Lomborg's Copenhagen Consensus 2004, a cost-benefit analysis of health issues by leading economists (including three Nobelists), calculated that spending on health issues such as micronutrients for children, HIV/AIDS and water purification has benefits 50 to 200 times those of attempting to marginally limit 'global warming'."
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119387567378878423.html

Did people vehemently disagree? You betcha. (Specially when Lomborg gets involved.) But was he gagged because he message was not PC? Not in the least. This piece was published as an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal. It is intelligent, rational, and well-reasoned. It deserved an airing.

cont...
Posted by Vanilla, Thursday, 21 February 2008 12:28:59 PM
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"I'm still frustrated that people who are posting here aren't *getting* Ginx's orginal point. Even if you disagree, why not tell us why, rather than pointing out how enlightened you are compared to the rest of the world."

not at all, my example of coon was just one such instance where at the coalface the black & white kids play together in perfect harmony and it is only those with something to gain that whip up PC, eg the LAWYER [not an aboriginal activist] in the coon case jp morgan mentions, or Howard/Brough in the NT offensive

"As far as I'm concerned, the "PC brigade" is increasingly an invention of the *right*, a straw-restriction that negates the need for rigorous intellectual engagement."

and with the greatest of respect, the expressions left/right are perhaps the greatest of all manifestations of PC, where it is suggested people dont think but simply align/realign themselves [which most do] with whichever "side" is most beneficial to their money making

two of the biggest - the Wimmens Industry and Family Law Industry both use PC extensively in their marketing
Posted by Divorce Doctor, Thursday, 21 February 2008 1:32:14 PM
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GINX...I can only work with what you put before us :)

But at least you are 'talking' meaningfully now.

"has this terminology been seen as a perfect tool to justify cruelty, denial, bigotry, religious and racist intolerance?"

YES.. it has. Those on the Left/Green end of politics, use it to bash, berate and bludgeon those who disagree with them by calling them all manner of names like

You hate us.
You're full of hatred.
You're bigoted.
You are a racist.

All these 'weapons' are used by the Green/left to achieve the things you mentioned.

They are 'racist' against most Australians and 'racist' in promoting the interests of minority races or religions.. this is as racist as it gets.

If you want 'bigotry' then look no further than a few of dear foxy's posts "Nothing you say will change my mind, I won't discuss my beliefs with you" .. (words to that effect)..

If you want DENIAL.. then just see how you and others react to well documented facts about Islam/Mohammad etc...

If you want 'cruelty' just cast a glance as what the Islamic council of Victoria put the 2 Dannies through, over a period of years simply because they chose to take offense and deliberately conspire with the UNequal Opportunity Commission in a dabble in religious intolerance and vilification and persecution.

You're in court ? hmmm not in court 3-3 in the County Court Melbourne r u ?

If so..I might hook up when I'm ripping into Rob Starry for looking at technicalities rather than evidence
Posted by BOAZ_David, Thursday, 21 February 2008 1:51:41 PM
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"and with the greatest of respect, the expressions left/right are perhaps the greatest of all manifestations of PC, where it is suggested people dont think but simply align/realign themselves [which most do] with whichever "side" is most beneficial to their money making"

LOVE IT! (pity I'm not allowed to put in multiple exclamation marks)

So very true....
Posted by GI_Jane, Thursday, 21 February 2008 5:40:23 PM
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Dear BD,

You really are very unfair and certainly no gentleman.

You patronise people, you don't respect their opinion, and then you have the nerve to blame them for not wanting to discuss things with you.

Shame on you!
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 21 February 2008 5:42:53 PM
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