Dear Ginx,

Look at what you've done ... It's great.

You must be getting close to setting a record for this Forum - have a look at how many pages on this thread of yours - and it's still going strong with no sign of stopping.

Ginx, you've really started something here - wow!

Good stuff!

This is piffling Foxy! Some threads have gone to over two hundred or more posts!

Agree or differ, it is certainly an interesting journey on this thread!

Cheers,- time for cocoa!

Ginx- We gotta love ya! You are clearly passionate about this topic and you certainly keep things interesting! Thank you for your explanation of your comment in response to mine. All is cool-

Here's is my thought on this topic: If we all knew the rules about PC and the goal posts would stop moving then PC would not be such an issue. But until that happens my highly evolved intellect and sought after considered opinion (at least in my own mind) is:

Political Correctness Sucks

Another PC saying: Fail= Deferred Success. (Thought Foxy would like another one.)

Hi Ginx...well I call them as I see em....

You are just projecting by describing my mind as some kind of cesspit.. I absolutely defend my use of 'kinda thing' because it does encompass the emotion and tone of pretty much all your posts where I'm mentioned.

I still return to the most important part of my post "When Ginx (and others) actually speak in response to evidence.. and assess it on its merits,
-"You are wrong, because the plain implication of that (verse, quote, statement) is different from how you understand it".

or
-"Here is contradictory evidence.. supporting a different conclusion"

That is called 'discussion'... but until this thread, I've not seen 'discussion' from you.. just a tirade of abuse. (for which you have been banned in the past)

You remind me this time of the car salesman.. having a difficult time closing the sale.. so he goes and gets his 'sincere' friend.. to make it 2 on 1 of the hapless possible purchaser

Quoting your 'true' Christian friend is meaningless.. tell him/her to come here and speak for themselves.. if they wish to take issue with the ISSUES I raise..they are more than welcome.

Now.."that" would be very politically correct :)

Boazy: "I absolutely defend my use of 'kinda thing' because it does encompass the emotion and tone of pretty much all your posts where I'm mentioned"

There he goes again, justifying his annoying habit of attributing to others things they didn't say. Of course this general principle underlies much of Boazy's tendency to mendacity, things are made up to "encompass the emotion and tone" of events. While this might be standard operating procedure for those whose lives are guided by fairy tales, it fails miserably when exposed to the light of reason.

Thus, when Boaz's imagination is excited he comes out with false or distorted quotations that support whatever his current tirade is about. It is, of course, the same process that sustains the credulity required for a person to continually proclaim their own "god delusion" while decrying those of others.

For example, Boazy currently claims in another thread { http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=7040#107148 )that an OLO author "holds Christians up to serious public contempt" and should be "SUED" for "religious vilification". While this could be an attempt at wit, it involves a deliberate misrepresentation of what the author had to say.

Further, it's another example of the way in which "PC" is now being deployed by the lunar right, which includes religious extremists of various persuasions including Christianity. While I sometimes enjoy the sophistry involved, there is always the danger that somebody might take these nutters seriously :)

Boazy,

You may not like CJ (I love writing CJ - makes me feel like a sundry character in the West Wing), but he speaks sense. You addressed a post to me specifically above, and I've felt rude not answering it, but the truth is I don't think our debates constitute a useful way to spend my time. We fundamentally disagree on too much, and while that might make for useful discussion in other situations, your tone is too patronising to make it worth my while. (Compared to the zillion other things I'm supposed to be doing.)

One of your main points is that bad things are "doctrinally permissible" in Islam but not Christianity. I seriously could not care less. Both systems are equally untrue. Your endless youtube clips of Islamic nutters just proves what I already knew - fundies are nutters. I don't care what club they barrack for.

As to your specific question, I'm happy to answer it. I think to say that Australia's rather pathetic attempts at affirmative action (you should go to the US) are overestimated. To call them "racist" may be technically true but it so victim-y and mean-spririted that I have little time for it.

I understand you're having a hard time getting anyone to take your arguments about Islam seriously, but unfortunately I am one of the people who is going to disappoint you.