Y'know, it's a damn good point in relation to the 'banning of Christmas'.

It's a chestnut that is trawled out all the time to attack this supposedly all encompassing PC encroachment, but I've never heard of the school where this has occurred.

In fact, most of the PC things I've heard tend to be just rumour gathering steam. I think if you attach 'PC' to it and roll your eyes, people will believe just about anything.

I'm not saying some of these overly PC things don't happen. They do. The golliwog biscuits are a fine example.
Passive, as for your mates and good-natured insults - if they're your mates and you're with them, why the hell can't you throw around a good natured epithet?

There's no PC SS roaming the streets. If you're not offending your friends, I don't see what you're really on about there, unless you're doing it to a crowded hall or somebody who doesn't know you.

I agree with Vanilla - from where I'm sitting, overly PC incidents do happen, but it is used far more commonly as a way of evading criticism for views that Australians have collectively rejected as ugly.

1)

First: BOZO this is my only reply to you. The substance of your posts for a so-called Christian are the most intolerant and full of bile that I have ever seen from a 'Christian'. But that has been pointed out to you by SSSSOOO MANY...; with no effect. You still preach the Gospel According To BOZO.

For what it's worth, I'm glad you posted here. I would have felt kind of left out if I did not cop a 'BOZO serve'!

Foxy: Your joke had me in fits!!

Anything else has been posted next door. And frankly I am glad that these two topics have come up. They are long overdue. I actually delivered a paper on the topic "Has Political Correctness subjugated Freedom of Speech" about five years ago!!

I plan to deliver another one: "Political Correctness: Cutting The Suit To Fit The Cloth".

If anything, what has been posted on FOUR threads, particularly by Mr Graham Young who with the greatest of respect, cannot fail to influence others with his views because he is the boss cocky; has concreted my view conveyed in my first post.

Look for yourselves.

Aggressive intolerance and goading has dramatically increased.

I will adjust my earlier phrase accordingly: "Freedom of Speech is my saying and doing what ever I want. Political correctness is your stopping me from doing it".

Has anyone else noticed that F of S has been clearly defined and endorsed. Yet PC and what constitutes PC, is being strongly discussed.

2)

Because PC is being USED. It is being used by the open slather mob to indicate that if one opposes their intolerant and racist views then clearly one is being PC. Which has led to the discussion of what PC actually is.

PC is the measure of the most ludicrous subjugation of things such as niggardly/dark-coloured beauty/yes..and the golliwog thing. PC relates to utter stupidity in the most trivial matters.

But the OS mob saw an opportunity to use it to their advantage;-and they have.

What an irony: FoS!! Really?? Take a look at this forum. The posting system won't/can't allow FoS by its very structure.

I plan to exercise my FoS upstairs, under threat of suspension. THAT is FoS??

It's very selective isn't it; this FoS...?

Ginx said: "I will adjust my earlier phrase accordingly: "Freedom of Speech is my saying and doing what ever I want. Political correctness is your stopping me from doing it".

F of S is not doing what you want because you still have to conform to the law. PC in one culture can be completely different in another culture ie. what is the acceptable or the 'in-mode of thinking' varies.

I wonder what shapes PC thought or fashion? Is it the media or is through the education system? I don't know. Sorry Ginx I am not helping much just providing more questions.

We still possess F of S in that even PC cannot stop you from voicing an opinion it just makes it inconvenient and annoying to argue a point to those who might disagree because of conformity to whatever social acceptable PC norms we have developed at any period in time.

But conversely if someone agrees with something that just happens to also be PC it does not mean that it is wrong...or right. For example if whomever makes the rules on PC decree that (just for example) detractors of global warming or the Apology to the Stolen Generation are not PC it does not mean just because something is PC is necessarily right or wrong.

This is where F of S comes in and why PC cannot be allowed to dictate the validity of an opinion - it has to be argued on its merits with honest scrutiny, research and evidence even if the subject matter may be offensive to some groups.

F of S is a funny thing as it means that everyone has it and can exercise it even if it means disagreeing with another's opinion.

Vanilla, I have a great example of PC crushing one's right to freedom of speech.

During this past Christmas season, Santa Clause was not allowed to say HO! Ho! Ho! Santa was to say Hee! Hee! Hee!

Reason for this? It might insult the ladies of the night over in the good ole U.S.A. as HO is slang for prostitute there.

PC gone totally crazy.

Tammy Jo,

I'll bet my bottom dollar that's apocryphal. But, of course, if you've evidence, I'll believe it. Have you got links to news stories or media? (There would have been a lot of it with that degree of PCness.)

Ginx. Thank god you're back.

TRTL. *Exactly* Thank god someone actually understand Ginx's point.